There is an inverse relationship between quality of product and amount of advertising required, and this law is universal.
I, too, would be frantically rebranding and flooding the internet with positive messaging after I was so incompetent I broke the entire world's privacy addons and pretended it didn't happen.
To think they are using actual money from donations from people who want a private browser to stab all those people in the back with a cloud browser, yeah, people born yesterday, meet a fictitious legal entity run by a secret council of oligarchs.
You can't point to criminals in order to prove yourself good by comparison.
You can't dismiss the mountain of mozilla's untrustworthy sketch bs without offering alternative suggestions unless your intention is simply advertising to use mozilla because it's the least worst.
fanboys set the bar soooo low nowadays. I find your comment needlessly dismissive of the relevant facts, perspective and any meaningful contribution to the discussion.
You haven't even begun to see the beginnings of inflammatory so please adjust your sensitivity meter, this is the internet.
I don't know, but they are going to have to find something to do with all of those email addresses in a database connected to the source vectors.
btw: the nsa tracks people by email address, as in, according to snowden, that is an often used search term to pull up all the surveilled data on an individual.
I do not think you understand the meaning of the word "trust", you may want to look it up.
Or maybe you were born after firefox deactivated all add-ons by surprise and accident?
Maybe you haven't thought through what an 'app store' really is?
Whatever the case, don't bother interacting with me you are so far behind I know nothing you have to say will be of any value on the topics of 'trust', 'corporation' or 'privacy.'
I truly, truly do not understand what is going on here at HN.
2 weeks ago mozilla deactivated by super-incompetent accident all of their security add ons and required a completely opaque 'studies' tool to push an update.
With the security features deactivated tons of people who need to get work done or didn't understand what was going on used the web with all of the tracking features turned on, no doubt allowing tons of previously anonymous stored data on users to be de-anonymized. They don't have to be able to track everyone all of the time, you just have to really get a unique identifier on the browser tracks left in the databases. Many FF installs in linux distributions ceased to function at all.
These simple observations went hardly remarked on HN.
BoingBoing.net which has previously covered security issues well, somehow did not notice/report this event, which stands out in recent memory as one of the worst privacy catastrophes. An inquiry to Mr. Doctorow himself in regards to this, as well as why there is still a tracking F on the page in 2019, has gone unanswered.
Now, a month later, without any further discussion of this event, Firefox wants us to trust it to single-handedly defeat tracking with a single new catch-all feature.
On HN, top rated comments, rather than expressing skepticism and asking for details, are about a completely different browser, Safari.
Perhaps the best comment after the firefix addon-aggedon noted, FF does not have to have a studies feature, it does not have to push automatic updates, it does not have to have a single signing certificate for all of the add-ons which creates a single point of failure. This line of inquiry is devastating to the true nature of mozilla and the loyalties of the individuals behind this code.
I am posting this as a response to the lowest rated, yet in my opinion best comment in this topic, hoping that other people who notice the complete distractions and consensus cracking going on all over the place above the fold, will know where to look for someone saying something intelligent about the situation.
And so this: the problem is not the computers and the software, it is the nature of these institutions and the people in them. Semi-corporate half-charitable, expansive things like whatever Mozilla is lend themselves easily to the same sort of infiltration and takeover as normal, evil, corporations. Do you not think the fbi, cia, air force and mossad have been spending years getting their agents into the 'key positions' at mozilla? Does mozilla(or canonical) seem to you like an organization who could resist this sort of effort?
It is now obvious that Firefox is run by the enemies of open culture, and having only the choice between FF and Chrome, developed by an even less trustworthy institution, the internet as dreamed of by people who care about freedom and liberty of the individual is in serious trouble.
So the comment to which I am replying is the best, what shape of institution will create software to make the internet open and fair, and facilitate free speech without infiltration and subversion by spies and paid propagandists?
Why can all of the kings horses and all the kings men not create a functional browser that doesn't publicize reading habits and de-anonymize with extremely obfuscated input analysis, if not outright keylogging and password theft and intentional malware backdoors?
The browser has replaced the television for most people, if you haven't noticed, so this is important and how discusion platforms like hackernews deal with the discussion of this, reveals all we need to know about the institution and individuals behind hackernews.
Something is rotten here and it could not be more obvious to anyone still capable of independent thought.
What if it was 1985 and it was found out that someone at one of the bells had sold a service to 10,000 russian spies to call everyone in the united states, and also provided them with the means to pretend to be someone else and mask their accent? And they did this specifically to sway an election in the direction of someone known to be affiliated with the mafia?
What would the punishment have been then? Adjust for inflation and multiply by 2 for punitive damages, by 3 for damage to the environment, by 4 for pissing off the entire U.S. Military.
Zuckerberg owes us everything he has, he exploited the entire world and then bought himself an entire neighborhood of houses to live in and a jungle in hawaii he's probably burning down for a golf course as we speak.
We should take it all back and put him in prison for about 10 lifetimes. He is an example for how to be awful.
Then apply the same to all American companies under Netanyahu's or Xi's control, and actually prosecute all spies from all countries after a 3 month warning to vacate or be imprisoned for life.
Globalization is not using technology for everyone to wage secret wars across borders, it is about organized federalization of republics and we need to create technology to do that based on the pile of ethical ruin and spy warfare we are looking at today, that is driving most everyone to despair.
I knew someone was going to say I was off topic, what a coincicence.
If human rights are not relevant to the article and thread, then the article and thread are for robots and someone should clearly post that.
If the article does not discuss rights, which to me appear to have completely disappeared and any semblence of them we only have is due to a lot of this generation of TLA officeres not being total monsters
Now we just have to hope Kushner doesn't use his global admin rights to do anything mean. /s
That is the state of the internet, this silent well-born manchild who has chummed with madmen since he was a child has clearance and hooks into everything the nsa scoops up, which is nearly the entire internet, and the entire pollyanna internet.
When you are sitting at your computer, everything you do is voluntary unless it's some kind of clockwork orange situation.
If we ban globally eyelids being held open by mechanical means to force people to watch something, THEN no one will see something that they don't want to.
It should be illegal maybe to let children under a certain age unsupervised on The Whole Internet, to stumble upon scary things.
I am way more disturbed that the Elsagate videos were on blahtube than that events of life and death are posted.
Why are the 9/11 towers falling not censored then, a lot more people were dying in that moment, but for some reason this is a spectacle(key word) no one can turn away from.
And if we have the global means to censor a single file(which is what a video is) then how come these maniacs are setting up huge violent crimes with major hardware right under the noses of the same authorities?
Consistent application of principle, so difficult to find in this world.
When you hear them explain it on TV, the authoritarian solution just sounds so dang sensible, doesn't it?
edit: self censoring myself even I'm afraid to say that here
someone is trying to erase the entire history of the events of Tianmnen Square involving Tank Man.
The United States, defending freedom and multicultuarlism supposedly, is recording basically all internet traffic and sharing it with the most racist country in the world while they create hordes of refugees due to their never-allowed-to-be-spoken plans for aggressive expansion in violation of the very United Nations that created them.
Processors will be made in this country and shipped all over the world. Routers, microwaves, all phones, plagued with endemic backdoors. Auditing capacity is overwhelmed and results seldom in any changes, see iratemonk seagate events.
Social media has basically given TPTB the easy capability to harass and interfere with all of the next generation of anything, while placing their agents in 'key positions' all over the place.
It's a bad situation, the real internet is not the public one anymore. Power exists, and the physical structure of power is, as always, hard at work trying to regulate the ideological structures.
Make us forget Tiananmen, and who knows what else we'll forget.
Wasn't there something that happened in Las Vegas a few monthyears ago? hmmmmmmmmm
The internet is being used, successfully, to attack the human mind on a global scale and the people with the most money are doing it while a bunch of really bright people think they are just solving math problems and making good money.
The situation is bad, I don't need algorighms and network maps to tell me that. The internet has lost China and Russia, and is running away from The United States of America.
>mature legal frameworks where the rule of law exists (US-
whaaaaaa
How is 'recording everything, decrypting everything, targeting persons of interest without warrant or record, extensive networks of informants and agents in all branches of politics, art, and business while bombing people based on their cell phone ping location globally without oversight or any attempt at legal justification'
The United States is 0 privacy, 0 honesty about the actual laws in place, 'fusion centers' completely removing any sane separation of national and regional power or separation of police from military, and 50 TLA's arguing over how best to harass political activists or run criminal gangs themselves. And an entire other spy agency of a different country on the other side of the world allowed to do basically whatever they want in our borders and harvest every ounce of the data of our lives.
That's not a 'mature framework', that is reverting 'civilization' to before the magna carta, much less the geneva conventions.
And since in no case where it was revealed how the government is breaking its own laws and using technology to make an illegal monstrosity out of the internet has the government ever meaningfully been held to account of actually changed, behold what rules you.
Stop pretending something is worth your trust just because there are flags and rotundas and people in suits on the news 24 hours a day and a cultish military junta hasn't completely taken completely over yet, visibly. edit: ...in the united states.
I find this article obviously hypes this technology, downplays that it is not surprisingly the military, DARPA, who are no doubt bringing us shooting autonomous robots that eventually will have accidents not unlike the already multiple times a year random violence events. That robot went haywire! No one has any responsibility besides this bad, bad, glitchy technology that we unfortunately depend on completely.
I would bet at least some coinage that some or another branch of intelligence networks is already testing this stufff on people who have essentially been disappeared. If they are outright stealing the kidneys of falun gong people, what human sacrifice would china not make to be able to stick a fork in someone's mind and read it?
And if CHINA is doing it, well then everybody else has to keep up!
Good times.
It's bizarre to me that anyone could write an article about this subject and not talk about the mother of all interrogation tools.
We need to defend the right to have an independent mind. If there are black sites and disappeared people, and the spy agencies can pretty much all go hog wild at the moment, where is the governing body that is going to potentially threaten spooks from abusing people horrifically with this stuff?
As I understand it, 5g will have enough bandwidth to have a decent throughput to fingernail sized devices. With a few electrodes could they outright puppet someone?
Why do so few tech articles ever talk about human rights and hype things without even basic analysis? Or it's the same, 'some critics say, it might be bad. oh well.'
And every time, 5 years later, 'oh it turns out google maps actually made a database of everyone's location who used it and then lied about doing that until it was no longer possible. Our motto is don't be evil. Well, not anymore. We don't have to do this interview. GUARDS!'