Ask HN: Would you leave your company just because you've been there for a while?
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If you like the people you're working with, enjoy the work you are doing, feel like you're learning and exploring new interesting/challenging problems and feel like you're being compensated fairly, I don't see a reason to switch companies. Remember there is always a risk that you won't like your next job as much as your current one (and the opposite is also true).
I'd look to change companies if any of the following, among other things, apply: you're working in a toxic environment, you don't get along with your co-workers, you aren't being challenged at your job, you aren't learning/expanding your knowledge, you aren't being compensated fairly, or you feel there aren't personal growth opportunities left at your current company.
Full disclosure, I am a recent grad so maybe I'm just being naive.
I'd look to change companies if any of the following, among other things, apply: you're working in a toxic environment, you don't get along with your co-workers, you aren't being challenged at your job, you aren't learning/expanding your knowledge, you aren't being compensated fairly, or you feel there aren't personal growth opportunities left at your current company.
Full disclosure, I am a recent grad so maybe I'm just being naive.
The only thing I can think of, that you don't get by staying at a business for a long amount of time (that does treat you well.. raises.. career progression.. etc.) is lack of exposure to how other businesses operate.
Some businesses operate in a bubble, and it's common for them to only explore what they need to. And by doing this, they're in danger of limiting their possibilities. I'm talking in terms of things as rudimentary as how one business manages their recruitment process vs another to the tools used in a development department vs another and why.
So if you are happy where you are, and plan to stay they for the indefinite future (and there's nothing wrong with that), I would just advise you to explore avenues outside of work that gives you exposure to the wider industry.
If you're an engineer that might be meetups.. talks.. perhaps courses.. If you're in an operational role, then maybe similar activities, but perhaps also ask your employer to allow you to explore other businesses with the intention of learning.
Some businesses operate in a bubble, and it's common for them to only explore what they need to. And by doing this, they're in danger of limiting their possibilities. I'm talking in terms of things as rudimentary as how one business manages their recruitment process vs another to the tools used in a development department vs another and why.
So if you are happy where you are, and plan to stay they for the indefinite future (and there's nothing wrong with that), I would just advise you to explore avenues outside of work that gives you exposure to the wider industry.
If you're an engineer that might be meetups.. talks.. perhaps courses.. If you're in an operational role, then maybe similar activities, but perhaps also ask your employer to allow you to explore other businesses with the intention of learning.
If you're happy, and you're doing well, getting paid decent, like your coworkers, and are still learning, there's not a whole lot of reason to move, I would say. The grass isn't always greener.
If you feel like you've gotten in a rut or plateaued, that might be a reason to think about it. I suppose it depends on your local job market; some places expect a lot more churn than others.
Personally, I'm kind of adverse to change for change's sake; I'm going on six years with the same company, and, except on my worst days, not really thinking about moving.
If you feel like you've gotten in a rut or plateaued, that might be a reason to think about it. I suppose it depends on your local job market; some places expect a lot more churn than others.
Personally, I'm kind of adverse to change for change's sake; I'm going on six years with the same company, and, except on my worst days, not really thinking about moving.
Seems like you are just curious. You should explore other options. Either you will gravitate more firmly or you will find more reasons to stick with your current job.
Every company I've ever worked out, I've identified a 'limit', where I know I won't go beyond, unless I actively do something about it (i.e. talk about a new position, new business activity etc).
There is a definite stigma around leaving companies early (as a perm) - for that, contracting is the go. I have no loyalty beyond a pay cheque - no company I've ever worked at, has had my best interests at heart. So act accordingly.
There is a definite stigma around leaving companies early (as a perm) - for that, contracting is the go. I have no loyalty beyond a pay cheque - no company I've ever worked at, has had my best interests at heart. So act accordingly.
If you have no reason to leave, stay put and keep up to date with the best practices from the other industries you care, for personal growth and just in case. Change for the sake of change is advisable if there is an inner desire (to challenge yourself, to see the world from different angles, to relocate often, etc.) or a brute money goal (whenever someone offers you more, you jump ship). Good luck!
It really depends on what you value in your job and how much of that value are you getting. Do you value time flexibility, working with friendly people, more money, title, the tech/product you are working on, commute?
However, I would recommend interviewing maybe few times a year or so, to see where you are and how things are changing around you.
However, I would recommend interviewing maybe few times a year or so, to see where you are and how things are changing around you.
I've been thinking about changing companies, not because I'm currently bored or have problems with my current position. Merely because I think I've been with this company a long time.
Thoughts?