Ask HN: Is it true our phones listen to us?

6 pointsby hamburgererrorvor 9 Monaten5 comments

I heard about this theory quite a lot, many people around me have reported similar stories: they talk aloud with someone (e.g. in a bar) about a topic with their phone nearby, then when they open their phone they will notice some ads about that specific topic. For instance, a friend reported they were talking about a singer and when he opened Instagram he add an ad for the upcoming concert of that singer although he didn't search for it. Someone even told me he mentioned a city in a conversation and when he opened Google Maps, the view was on that specific city.

I have never noticed this behavior myself, and I saw a video from a youtuber saying that these theories are strange since analysing voice on the device is complicated because first, until recently it was not so obvious, and second, it requires a good amount of computing power. Analysing the data on a server is even harder given the huge amount of users. Current progress in AI could make this work for sure, but still, I'm a bit skeptical. Going back to my examples, I guess the guy that got the ad for the concert was following the singer's account? And the other may have looked at google maps but doesn't remember it?

I'm not trying to say all these testimonies are wrong, but given the awareness in the population that phones are literal data sinkholes, sometimes it feels like we tend to believe in some far-fetched stories.

Did you experiment similar stories? I'd like to ear your opinions.

Thanks!

6 comments

davydmvor 9 Monaten

1. many modern smartphones can be configured (and are configured, by default) to listen for keywords like "ok google" to start a search. So if this is enabled, then technically, yes, your phone is always listening 2. I think that there's a lot of serendipity involved in the stories. Sure, there's malware, and I 100% don't trust that facebook isn't constantly listening if mic is enabled, because I don't trust meta at all, but I think that a lot of the time, people notice the subsequent ad or whatever because the topic is still on their mind, and don't notice all the stuff they see that's _not_ relevant to what they were talking about.

[deleted]vor 9 Monaten

baobunvor 9 Monaten

https://newatlas.com/computers/smartphone-listening-conversa...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43799802

Unless you have some nasty malware, probably ot the way you imagine.

If you have "AI" or some agent on it could totally listen in and use that when active, though.

hamburgererrorvor 9 Monaten

Thanks for the link, very enlightening.

n1xis10tvor 9 Monaten

I found this article a while back, but I don’t know the details because I haven’t paid to read the article. You might be able to find more details on the same story from a different source, I don’t know. https://www.404media.co/heres-the-pitch-deck-for-active-list...

tontoniusvor 9 Monaten

somehow you never hear stories where they talked about a singer and _didn’t_ see an ad for that singer’s concert?