Hamas Releases Israeli Hostages(npr.org)
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Hamas Releases Israeli Hostages
https://www.npr.org/2025/10/13/g-s1-93207/hamas-releasing-israeli-hostages
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It's getting flagged has it should be, according to the hn guidelines that you should read:
Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.
Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.
Search for genocide or Israel on hn.algolia.com and you will see which stories get flagged and which don’t
Look I'm far-left and pro palestinian but I do flag stories like that because there are places on the internet to discuss current world news/atrocities and hn isn't one of them ?
> Really educating to see where the narrative will shift now.
Indeed, that was quick.
Indeed, that was quick.
> Hamas released the last 20 living Israeli hostages who had been captive for just over two years.
> In turn, Israel freed nearly 2,000 Palestinian prisoners and detainees.
edit to add: I have expressed no opinion here, I'm just quoting the part of the article I was curious about after seeing pictures of the very small convoy
> In turn, Israel freed nearly 2,000 Palestinian prisoners and detainees.
edit to add: I have expressed no opinion here, I'm just quoting the part of the article I was curious about after seeing pictures of the very small convoy
Yes, that's how compromises work. Some progress is better than no progress.
You have replied as if I complained or said anything about the deal/compromise.
I simply quoted the numbers from the article because it was what I was curious about when I saw the headline & picture of the small convoy.
I simply quoted the numbers from the article because it was what I was curious about when I saw the headline & picture of the small convoy.
a lot of them are prisoners with no charge
Sounds highly illegal. But yeah I know , rules do not apply to war, Geneva Convention notwithstanding.
> Sounds highly illegal.
As opposed to literal hostage taking?
> rules do not apply to war, Geneva Convention notwithstanding.
I don't know what so-called international law says, but if you're going to try to apply rules to war, it seems pretty essential that they apply to all sides or no sides, otherwise you create an exploitable situation that's ripe for abuse. The reward for following the rules should be that the other parties in the conflict follow them, too. The punishment for breaking them should be that the other parties no longer follow them.
As opposed to literal hostage taking?
> rules do not apply to war, Geneva Convention notwithstanding.
I don't know what so-called international law says, but if you're going to try to apply rules to war, it seems pretty essential that they apply to all sides or no sides, otherwise you create an exploitable situation that's ripe for abuse. The reward for following the rules should be that the other parties in the conflict follow them, too. The punishment for breaking them should be that the other parties no longer follow them.
If both sides abide by the rules a war couldnt have started
The rules allow for wars. They don't prevent killing every combatant the other side has. The two sides agree to have a war, then their combatants kill one another until one side gives up or runs out of people to draft as combatants. The rules prohibit killing various classes of noncombatants, with some situational exceptions.
The supposed force behind the Geneva Convention is the threat of being tried for war crimes after the dust settles.
If you are Putin, and can accept never traveling to a list of western countries again, that threat is toothless.
But if you are literally defeated (as opposed to being forced to retreat from Ukraine, the most anyone could hope for in the invasion), it could weigh heavily on you. Or not. Politics are stupid.
If you are Putin, and can accept never traveling to a list of western countries again, that threat is toothless.
But if you are literally defeated (as opposed to being forced to retreat from Ukraine, the most anyone could hope for in the invasion), it could weigh heavily on you. Or not. Politics are stupid.
that’s a very manichean view. War ist all shades of (horrible) gray and you can have rules, a lot, none, everything is possible. Don’t know what you mean with “Geneva Convention notwithstanding” here, it’s exactly the kind of rules that _can_ exist in times of war – or be completely ignored on both sides.
It’s not because it’s war time that one should just resign, shrug and accept any atrocities. The less atrocities during war time, that more chances for a stable peace afterward.
It’s not because it’s war time that one should just resign, shrug and accept any atrocities. The less atrocities during war time, that more chances for a stable peace afterward.
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It's much easier for Israel to detain Palestinians than for Hamas to kidnap Israelis, so asymmetry makes sense.
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Heart breaks for Bipin Joshi and his family. Can't imagine what they had to go through :(
It should be positive for both Pro-Israelies and pro-Palestinians.
Really educating to see where the narrative will shift now.