Andrew Kelley removed his "monkeys" and "losers" references(web.archive.org)
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Andrew Kelley removed his "monkeys" and "losers" references
https://web.archive.org/web/20251127021007/https://ziglang.org/news/migrating-from-github-to-codeberg/
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> The fact he withdrew his comments is a sign of humility.
If someone else, working for a large company for instance, said and withdrew the same comments, I doubt that you would be extending the same benefit to them.
It was done, as the comment points out, to avoid causing trouble for others, his thoughts on the matter still remain the same. Humility would involve self reflection and apologies, of which there is none here. Hypocrisy, possibly. Cultural rot, perhaps. Violating their own code of conduct, yes. Lack of empathy, definitely. But humility, certainly not.
If someone else, working for a large company for instance, said and withdrew the same comments, I doubt that you would be extending the same benefit to them.
It was done, as the comment points out, to avoid causing trouble for others, his thoughts on the matter still remain the same. Humility would involve self reflection and apologies, of which there is none here. Hypocrisy, possibly. Cultural rot, perhaps. Violating their own code of conduct, yes. Lack of empathy, definitely. But humility, certainly not.
That’s a fair point re: apology.
FWIW I take issue with the tone (petty name calling, elitism) of the comments. And I disagree with the assertion if I understand the original comments correctly (that there’s some kind of technical incompetency to blame?).
Maybe I wrote my comment because I was surprised that the article was even amended at all. I dunno.
It’s messy and the Zig project are taking on a lot of challenges. Didn’t see this battle being picked but here we are!
FWIW I take issue with the tone (petty name calling, elitism) of the comments. And I disagree with the assertion if I understand the original comments correctly (that there’s some kind of technical incompetency to blame?).
Maybe I wrote my comment because I was surprised that the article was even amended at all. I dunno.
It’s messy and the Zig project are taking on a lot of challenges. Didn’t see this battle being picked but here we are!
Discussion on the original article:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46064571
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46064571
He's not wrong about actions being neglected
Yeah, but you can't call developers "monkeys" and "losers" and violate your own Code of Conduct.
I applaud the migration, and I sympathise with the difficulty of running open-source software projects.
Hoping Andrew is ok. The fact he withdrew his comments is a sign of humility. I guess in this context that’s more important than whether you agree or disagree with the comments.