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Finbel
·vor 10 Tagen·discuss
Textbook fallacy fallacy.
Finbel
·vor 20 Tagen·discuss
Maybe it’s like that trick where if a thousand people guess the amount of beans in a jar almost all of them will be wrong but their average will be very close to, if not, correct.
Finbel
·letzten Monat·discuss
I doubt it. I'm stupid and I use LLMs a lot but I can still meditate for 30 minutes.

But apparently some of the smartest people in the world have lost the skill? But the commenter haven't, because why, they're 15 years older and thus immune to the same LLM-effects?

Plus, the issue with people having trouble sitting still for 30 minutes precede LLMs with decades.
Finbel
·letzten Monat·discuss
I feel there's an interesting juxtaposition between these two quotes:

"The economy has absorbed automation before; agricultural employment collapsed from ninety percent of the American workforce to two percent and civilization continued. David Autor at MIT has shown that roughly sixty percent of today’s jobs didn’t exist in 1940. New technologies create new categories of work. True. But there’s a difference between an observation about the past and a law of nature, and the optimists consistently confuse the two."

and

"The assumption is that if you send people checks, they’ll find meaning in hobbies and community. They’ll paint. They’ll garden. They’ll finally write that novel.

This is ahistorical bullshit."

In the former the author establish that you can't make a observation about the past and take it as a law of nature. In the latter they refute arguments as "ahistorical bullshit" for not doing exactly that.

Especially since they then proceed with historical example, all of which had poverty as a strong contributing factor.
Finbel
·vor 2 Monaten·discuss
To me this is semantics as far as it's related to "why don't you want to learn?"

I have a co-worker in another team that write java endpoins we consume. I can tell him what I need and I trust the output. I don't need to know java to trust him, it doesn't mean I don't want to learn.

There are thousand examples like this across every stack and abstraction level. From ssh-handshakes to gps.

Sure my co-worker is fundamentally different from a compiler which is fundamentally different from an LLM.

My argument is that the chain-of-trust where you offload knowledge to an external source is identical. We do it all the time but somehow doing it with an LLM means we no longer want to learn?
Finbel
·vor 2 Monaten·discuss
Yes, but that's a completely different argument (that I agree with). Essentially, yes they are conceptually similar but one is bad because you have to pay rent to use it.
Finbel
·vor 2 Monaten·discuss
>Also, when did we stop liking to learn? Why is it a bad thing to know all the ins and outs of a programming language?

I do not know the inns and out of the assembly layer my high level code end up as. It's not because I don't like to learn, it's because I genuinely don't need to. At a certain level of AI performance, how will this be any different?
Finbel
·vor 2 Monaten·discuss
>The difference between a puppy and a cockroach is that we can relate better to the puppy.

I suppose the difference between a human and a cockroach is that we can relate better to the human as well in this reductive way of thinking?
Finbel
·vor 2 Monaten·discuss
It's not novel in the sense that nobody knew about img2img. It's novel in the sense that nobody thought of using img2img to solve this problem in this way.
Finbel
·vor 3 Monaten·discuss
There's a certain irony in the fact that whoever you're responsing to got their message removed.
Finbel
·vor 3 Monaten·discuss
Of course you're not one of "us" if you're one of "them".
Finbel
·vor 3 Monaten·discuss
Wow, never thought about the fact that the system deteriorates from having more than one option
Finbel
·vor 3 Monaten·discuss
Sorry I'm from Sweden and our banks have a service called Swish where we can send money on the phone. Paying in cash is extremely uncommon now a days. Every time I've bought or sold something on FB Marketplace the last decade I've used Swish. I thought you had something similar called Venmo in the US?
Finbel
·vor 3 Monaten·discuss
Yes but "the search space is too large" is something that has been said about innumerable AI-problems that were then solved. So it's not unreasonable that one doubts the merit of the statement when it's said for the umpteenth time.
Finbel
·vor 4 Monaten·discuss
The whole fight with Anthropic was because they wanted to use it for mass surveillance (and autonomous weapon systems).

How is mass surveillance not orwellian.
Finbel
·vor 4 Monaten·discuss
>Hey that's a weird thing in the result that hints at some other vector for this thing we should look at

Kinda funny because that looked _very_ close to what my Opus 4.6 said yesterday when it was debugging compile errors for me. It did proceed to explore the other vector.
Finbel
·vor 4 Monaten·discuss
That's silly, they don't want to manage people, they prefer to build actually useful things. I've recently learned how many programmers actually don't care about building things.

They love the craft, for all they care they could be working in a black box in a void as long as it fed them interesting problems to solve.

They don't see any actual benifit in the AI increasing the velocity of how fast they build useful things. That was never of value to them, all they see is the problems becoming more boring to solve.
Finbel
·vor 4 Monaten·discuss
You see how that's a circular reasoning? The defense budget should by all accounts be called the war budget if we look at how it's spent (Iran).
Finbel
·vor 4 Monaten·discuss
But... you ARE blowing things up with it?
Finbel
·vor 4 Monaten·discuss
I think you're the one applying anti-vax logic here. Imagine beating a guy up for looking at you wrong and then get into a semantic argument with the judge on how you shouldn't be charged with assault because it was actually an act of defense, you see if you hadn't assaulted them they would surely have assaulted you so it's defense.

You're basically saying the US don't need a Department of Defense because the Department of War is doing such a good job.