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Show HN: HelixDB – A graph database built on object storage

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159 points·by GeorgeCurtis·letzten Monat·46 comments

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GeorgeCurtis
·vor 27 Tagen·discuss
yes, and yes.

https://docs.helix-db.com/database/multi-tenancy
GeorgeCurtis
·vor 27 Tagen·discuss
No, you can run it in-memory or on-disk too
GeorgeCurtis
·letzten Monat·discuss
OLAP queries, deep multi-hops where latency is a priority.

As long as the sub-graph you're trying to hop is cached, then there's no problem or latency issues. However, if you need to do a deep hop query, where all those nodes and edges are in cold storage, each hop costs ~50ms. So a 10-hop would take ~0.5 seconds.

Again though, we find most people are using us for agentic workloads, so even this worst case scenario the LLMs make up the majority of the latency.
GeorgeCurtis
·letzten Monat·discuss
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GeorgeCurtis
·letzten Monat·discuss
puppy graph is not open source
GeorgeCurtis
·letzten Monat·discuss
Can't imagine why they'd be hesitant, Helix is awesome, we've never had any data loss issues, and are completely ACID.

I'd encourage them to start a local instance with claude/codex to build a mini project and see what it's like.
GeorgeCurtis
·letzten Monat·discuss
Lapse of communication. For now as in you’ll be able to host it without reading the source code.

Soon you’ll be able to host it yourself AND have access to the source code
GeorgeCurtis
·letzten Monat·discuss
You can definitely host it for free locally for now.

We aim to launch our GA cloud at the end of this month, which will be much more affordable.
GeorgeCurtis
·letzten Monat·discuss
This was a TEMPORARY decision we made, and I wrote a bit about why we did this here: https://x.com/georgecurtiss/status/2060043184059912470

We’re 100% committed to going back to open-source on an Apache 2.0 license as soon as possible. In the meantime, you can continue to deploy us completely for free, however you like, using the compiled docker container.
GeorgeCurtis
·letzten Monat·discuss
Sure! You can email me personally at [email protected]
GeorgeCurtis
·letzten Monat·discuss
We plan on launching end of month.
GeorgeCurtis
·letzten Monat·discuss
tpuffer is a vector/fts database. Surreal is a bit of an "everything database".

We're a graph database with vector and FTS capabilities. Our vector and FTS benchmarks are comparable with tpuffer, but you would primarily use us for building whole applications, knowledge graphs, or AI memory/retrieval. Anything that is relationship intense.

Let me know if this properly answers your question
GeorgeCurtis
·letzten Monat·discuss
yooo this is awesome. Didn't even realise :)
GeorgeCurtis
·letzten Monat·discuss
This sounds like a perfect usecase. Would love to learn more and see if we can help!

email us: [email protected]
GeorgeCurtis
·letzten Monat·discuss
PuppyGraph is a good fit for OLAP for sure.

We’re just two young founders sharing what we’ve been building, so I’ll take the drive-by competitor plug as a compliment :)

Definitely a different focus though. Helix is OLTP, built for operational graph + vector workloads, especially apps/agent memory where low-latency traversals and writes are concerned.
GeorgeCurtis
·letzten Monat·discuss
We don't support cypher or gremlin. We can

You can query HelixDB using JSON or directly in your programming language of choice by using our Rust, TypeScript, Go or Python SDKs. We’ve found AI is very good at working with the SDKs and JSON itself to query, making the development experience much better than before: https://docs.helix-db.com/database/querying
GeorgeCurtis
·letzten Monat·discuss
Yes you can put vectors, full text data, secondary and range indexes on both nodes and edges.
GeorgeCurtis
·letzten Monat·discuss
We see comparable results for vectors and FTS.

For vector search we have warm and cold p99s of approx 20ms and 400ms respectively. For FTS, warm and cold query p99s of approx 15ms and 250ms respectively.

Both of these benchmarks were run on 1m docs.
GeorgeCurtis
·letzten Monat·discuss
In prod we see p99’s of <10ms ms for warm queries and around 50ms per hop for cold queries.
GeorgeCurtis
·vor 10 Monaten·discuss
How does this handle bot detection?