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KajMagnus

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I build an open source cross between StackOverflow + Slack + HackerNews + Discourse: www.talkyard.io

Blog comments: https://www.talkyard.io/blog-comments, like Disqus but open source + hosting, no ads no tracking.

How HN can be improved: https://www.talkyard.io/-32/how-hacker-news-can-be-improved-3-things

Contact: kajmagnus3 at gmail dot com

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Socials: - github.com/https://github.com/kajmagnus

(I wouldn't say this is my main HN account. I have another, anonymous, which I use more often, but not in the same discussions.)

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Show HN: Talkyard, open-source forum software. StackOverflow Reddit Slack hybrid

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2 points·by KajMagnus·vor 6 Monaten·0 comments

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KajMagnus
·vor 7 Tagen·discuss
> no one cares about forums anymore so trying to innovate in the space is a waste of time

Not sure about that. To me it looks as if Facebook is self sabotaging, for example their local events page is broken and has been for years. FB-the-company seems defunct internally, and if they start fading away (slowly over many 10s of years), maybe forums will make a comeback (slowly). Also, if AIs destroy Reddit, this might be an opportunity for smaller forums that have ways to block boring AIs.

> Any feature you can think of has probably been implemented by someone at some point

Definitely not :- )
KajMagnus
·vor 7 Tagen·discuss
That's how GitHub discussion works :- ) (or did you know?)

Look here: https://github.com/jj-vcs/jj/discussions/ — by default, sorted by last activity. But you can also sort by newest, or by votes.

For comment threads, look at e.g.: https://github.com/jj-vcs/jj/discussions/5509?sort=old — sorted by time, by default. But you can also sort by upvotes.

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The forum software I'm developing, https://www.Talkyard.io, is also threaded, and can sort by time or by votes. (Both discussion topics and replies.)

F.ex. go here: https://forum.talkyard.io/-9qb49/solving-problem-first-comme... and scroll down to the replies section and click `Oldest first` to change order.

In addition to oldest/newest/"best", you can sort top level comments by time descending, and deeper comments by time _ascending_ or by votes — creating a kind of "micro blog feed" where each top level comment is the most recent "micro blog post" — but replies don't have to share the same sort order. "Newest, then popular" and "Newest, then oldest" I call these sort orders.

Also click the "Recent posts" in the upper right corner, to see the most recent comments sorted by time descending.

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Anyway. There's people who think the hybrid approach you mentioned is an good idea.
KajMagnus
·vor 8 Tagen·discuss
You can also have a tree view side-by-side with a flat view — see this comment (in this discussion): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48770861

If you click a comment in the flat view, the tree view jumps to that comment, so you can see it in its context.

> You can have a chronologically sorted tree view

Couldn't that be a change-sort-order-button? But this doesn't solve the find-the-most-recent-comments problem?
KajMagnus
·vor 8 Tagen·discuss
> Is there any reason why flat/tree view could not be toggleable

I actually implemented both flat & tree view in Talkyard (forum softw I'm developing).

Not toggleable, but side-by side, so you see the threaded discussion in the middle, and comments by time descending in a sidebar.

See: (incl demo video)

https://forum.talkyard.io/-32/how-hacker-news-can-be-improve...

(Old HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12663844, but blog link broken (seems I let the domain expire))
KajMagnus
·vor 11 Tagen·discuss
I think they meant that different people can give you different and conflicting advice.

Also, check out the Goomba fallacy. (The way you wrote "the advice was... now it is...")
KajMagnus
·vor 17 Tagen·discuss
Yes I guess there exists such blog posts. And that it varies from person to person of course (what they already know or dont).

This blog post in particular though, I got so bored so I couldn't finish reading it. I gave it another quick try now because of your comment :-)
KajMagnus
·vor 17 Tagen·discuss
> was AI, but it was interesting nonetheless

I suspect the prompt given to the AI was 3 sentences, maybe interesting sentences,

and everything else was AI expanded, a waste of everyone's time? (Those who read everything)
KajMagnus
·vor 23 Tagen·discuss
Interesting, didn't know about that Github functionality.

I'd like to not depend that much on Github, and instead I'm thinking about having some kind of archival repo where noisy boring historical stuff can be saved (but I'd delete the branches in the main repo). Or renaming historical branches, eg adding an "old/" prefix.
KajMagnus
·vor 29 Tagen·discuss
That's interesting, so you keep the branches from before the squash -- but do you also rename them somehow, to show that they're now "frozen historic versions"?
KajMagnus
·letzten Monat·discuss
The whole website was apparently AI generated 3 days ago [0], leaves me wondering if this is partly a HN bots upvotes manipulation experiment. Or people here really think an AI gend docs website is top news nowadays? Has the HN demographics changed

When the website is AI generated anyway, why not ask Claude or Gemini directly instead of going to the specs website?

(Maybe it's useful to the author himself, but personally I don't have any reasons to trust the website more than asking an AI myself + asking for references)

[0] https://github.com/jdevalk/specification.website/commit/d8ec...
KajMagnus
·letzten Monat·discuss
I think the AIs don't have enough information about the problem. There's many things those who wrote the prompts forgot to mention. And some of it maybe is tacit knowledge?

Then, it doesn't matter if you add 1000 frontier models -- they still can't generate a good report.

But yes I suppose you can get rid of hallucinated citations though
KajMagnus
·letzten Monat·discuss
Top 18%! I denied everything, unless I could see at a glance that it was safe (like Git diff)
KajMagnus
·vor 2 Monaten·discuss
Aren't you overlooking the main point of the article?, the reason they migrated:

> concurrency — eliminating data races essentially, which we had before. Really gnarly bugs

> this is the one teams report most enthusiastically. The classes of bugs that survive go test -race and reach production (data races, nil dereferences, missed error paths) just don’t compile in Rust. Oncall rotations are typically very boring after a Rust migration. ...

> I hadn’t had to chase down a crash, or some weird multi-threaded race condition, or some of these other things which actually consumed a huge amount of my time before.

(They say at InfluxDb)

That's not a Rust vs. Go slapfight? Instead, sounds like a good judgement to me
KajMagnus
·vor 2 Monaten·discuss
There's no metrics or KPIs that encourage more AI use? (In his team?)

(I guess you would have mentioned already)
KajMagnus
·vor 2 Monaten·discuss
Saying the model failed to write a competitive C compiler makes more sense.

I don't think they tried to do that though.

> today's models are not yet able to produce production software without close supervision, even when uncharacteristically good specs and hand-written tests exist.

That's a good point anyway
KajMagnus
·vor 2 Monaten·discuss
Or when you find some old source code at your workplace, and you're like: "this looks pretty nice, I wonder who wrote this?"
KajMagnus
·vor 2 Monaten·discuss
Check out Qubes OS and vault VMs and (I haven't started using yet) split SSH / GPG.
KajMagnus
·vor 2 Monaten·discuss
If a package developer maliciously breaks everyone's builds,

isn't that pretty great?

Because now you have learnt that you can't trust them
KajMagnus
·vor 2 Monaten·discuss
How do you know the hash in advance?
KajMagnus
·vor 2 Monaten·discuss
My impression is that they're sometimes unemployed people or students hoping to create a popular open source project, and use it to find a job.

They aren't going to care about any of the advice in the article about not posting slop -- finding a job is (of course?) more important to them.

Can't really say they are doing anything wrong, maybe I too would have? ... Just that large scale, doesn't work