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Why do output tokens cost 5x more than input tokens?

anirudhsathiya.com
3 points·by ani17·vor 3 Monaten·2 comments

LLM inference engine from scratch in C++ – why output tokens cost 5x

anirudhsathiya.com
9 points·by ani17·vor 3 Monaten·3 comments

Ask HN: How cam I auto-switch shared Google Meet tab?

1 points·by ani17·vor 8 Monaten·2 comments

How Much OpenAI Spends on Inference and Its Revenue Share with Microsoft

wheresyoured.at
68 points·by ani17·vor 8 Monaten·25 comments

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1 points·by ani17·vor 10 Monaten·0 comments

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ani17
·vor 3 Monaten·discuss
Author here. I wanted to understand what vLLM and llama.cpp are actually doing under the hood, but the codebases are massive. So I wrote a stripped down version from scratch to see the core ideas without the production complexity.

Code: https://github.com/Anirudh171202/WhiteLotus
ani17
·vor 3 Monaten·discuss
The blog walks through why your first token is always the slowest, why output tokens cost 5x more, and how stuff like speculative decoding and chunked prefill actually work, from the perspective of a systems engineer!
ani17
·vor 3 Monaten·discuss
Author here. A bit more context: By day I'm a systems engineer building AI networking infrastructure. So I kept ending up in conversations where I'm not exactly able to wrap my head on the latest inference magic trick.

Like when someone mentioned vLLM's paged attention, I knew virtual memory paging, but had no idea someone had applied the same idea to KV cache allocation on GPUs.

Github link to the project: https://github.com/Anirudh171202/WhiteLotus
ani17
·vor 8 Monaten·discuss
Definitely an alternative solution. For the purpose of this script, I wouldn't prefer that though.
ani17
·vor 8 Monaten·discuss
It's insane if the data is accurate. Only time will tell
ani17
·vor 10 Monaten·discuss
You forgot "Middle Out" by Pied Piper!
ani17
·vor 10 Monaten·discuss
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·vor 10 Monaten·discuss
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ani17
·vor 10 Monaten·discuss
thanks for sharing!