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gadi1993

vor 5 Jahrendiscuss

Lobbying isn't nearly as big of a problem in other countries. Your problem starts in the ballot box when you let your politicians elect themselves with mail in and electronic electronic voting machines. When they don't need you to get elected, they will instead sell themselves to the highest bidder.

gadi1993

vor 5 Jahrendiscuss

Of course Russia isn't democracy, the entire point was to prove to you who is rigging undemocratic elections.

gadi1993

vor 5 Jahrendiscuss

French had massive mail voting fraud in 1975, after which they banned it.

The entire point of elections is proving your government is trustable, you can't trust your government with it because then it's like a self signed certificate, circular trust problem.

Who rigs elections in Russia? The government. Who is most likely to rig elections? The government.

You can't trust government with elections, and just because the government shows you documents doesn't mean anything. Governments fabricate documents all the time. If all you require from corrupt politicians to remain in control is a bunch of mailed documents, you can be sure they'll get those documents mailed. I'm just completely dumbfounded people living within countries with these elections think they are democracies.

gadi1993

vor 5 Jahrendiscuss

I'm Israeli and I was recently shocked to learn the rest of the world trusts electronic voting and vote by mail. We have a very simple and strict voting process here - the key feature which builds the trust in voting is that every 4 poll workers are responsible for the integrity of only up to 800 votes. We don't have fraud allegations because you would have to blame over 150 different people simultaneously (and often much more, on the order of hundreds of people, when you take into consideration the practical constrains) to change a single seat. It's very simple to convince a person of the integrity that this process. We have a high turnout which completely contradicts the claim that mail / electronic voting increases turnout. Electronic voting / mail voting give the power of changing the results to a handful of people who control the voting machines / know the voter rolls. Whether they will or had abused it is anyone's guess - but pretending that controversy over election process is inevitable is plainly wrong. The entire premise of elections is to prove to the losing side that the process was fair, so I find it unbelievable so many countries overlook that and give things like convenience and corona safety a priority.

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