ori_b

But it isn't.

Why does liking something different from you imply there's a war?

Do what? What is not happening today that you think would happen if people were given the right to repair?

You pretty clearly said everyone is currently bypassing this, otherwise companies would not be putting in larger engines. Is that wrong?

ori_b

vorgesterndiscuss

I don't understand what you're trying to say. Is this prevented today or not by the denial of the right to repair?

It sounds like you are saying everyone is doing it today, so denying the right to repair doesn't affect the situation.

ori_b

vorgesterndiscuss

You're right, the usage in the USA is bigger.

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=67704

Across all cases, servers alone accounted for an estimated 7% of commercial sector electricity consumption in 2025. Data center server electricity use grows to 22%–33% of commercial building electricity use by 2050 across our cases.

Distributing that outside of special purpose, optimized data centers isn't going to bring that number down.

> Apterus even respects opt-out notices in their collection of the dataset they distribute.

Yeah. Uh. That's the bare minimum.

ori_b

vorgesterndiscuss

Exactly. As long as they benefit in the short term, who cares about the damage done? Who knows, maybe you'll end up making enough money to avoid any future consequences, too. Good luck with that.

ori_b

vorgesterndiscuss

I'm not aware of any advanced models with full training data available, let alone available with paid licenses for the training data.

The process of training and using them is also not likely to be any better than commercial models. 23% of Ireland's power is going to data centers, spreading that among less efficient hardware in less efficient setups is unlikely to be better, unless the models are so bad nobody uses them.

And I'm also not aware of anyone working on these models trying to reduce the social damage they are going to do.

ori_b

vorgesterndiscuss

Are the solutions on stackoverflow licensed in a way that allows people to use them that way? Is this true for AI training data?

ori_b

vorgesterndiscuss

I'm not interested supporting in anyone who is willing to build on stolen property just so that we can accelerate enshittification and damage the environment. When the AI companies pay artists for their training material, stop building gas pipelines directly to data centers, and work on putting UBI in place before they try to replace all white collar labour, it may be worth revisiting.

There's a reason that believing AI is bringing a better world is a more fringe position than believing in telekinesis. The AI companies are strip-mining the commons, and leaving the world worse off for it.

Edit: it's interesting watching the votes on this bounce up and down between the people inside and outside of the pro-ai fringe react.

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vorgesterndiscuss

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ori_b

vorgesterndiscuss

I sure can. Especially if you aren't paying me to use your unpleasant software.

ori_b

vor 3 Tagendiscuss

This is an external audit. Why would Linux activity make a difference here? Are you theorizing that the churn causes bugs?

ori_b

vor 3 Tagendiscuss

Vibecoded. Nope.

ori_b

vor 7 Tagendiscuss

Has your salary gone up to match your productivity, or are you giving it all away for free?

You're not one of the people who gets to benefit from the gains.

ori_b

vor 7 Tagendiscuss

Beneficial for who?

ori_b

vor 11 Tagendiscuss

Web technologies are significantly larger and more complex than framebuffers, and they don't even let you start arbitrary programs like Chrome under them.

ori_b

vor 11 Tagendiscuss

So, uh... X11? VNC? RDP?

ori_b

vor 19 Tagendiscuss

I took a quick look at the source:

      // Fire view events (e.g. unlock_prompt_viewed) for any monetization prompt
      // present in the freshly loaded page. data-analytics-view-events is a JSON
      // array so one rendered prompt can report several events at once.

What's a monetization prompt?

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vor 21 Tagendiscuss

I was definitely reading articles online by the age of 13. This is not exactly a small part of the discourse.

I'd expect, at this point, it's rather hard to avoid hearing about AI and its impact.

ori_b

vor 21 Tagendiscuss

Do you think they're too illiterate to read what industry leaders are saying? I assure you they're not.

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