sd34 · HackerTrans

vor 9 Jahrendiscuss

If a dev is dumb enough to advocate clojure, I'd be pretty suspect about their coding ability in general. I have yet to work with a decent programmer who liked it.

sd34

vor 9 Jahrendiscuss

Lispers often call people trolls who question their delusion.

Is it ok to call non-lispers delusional - like OP? And how about calling lispers delusional - who have never shown any evidence on their language's usefulness? Is hypocrisy ok for you?

Edit:

OP was trolling then - his statements are provocative to every other programmer. You just don't like mine because you're lisp fanatics.

Btw, did any of you provided any evidence? I've called out the lack of evidence.

No, you can't create better DSLs with lisp. Or if you can: show me. The presence of hygienic macros and homoiconicity won't help in reality.

Edit2:

C and C++ don't have hygienic macros.

Also, talking about the presence of the "evidence" somewhere != showing the evidence. This just proves my previous statements: you're all hype, no evidence.

Edit3:

Personal preferences are useless. I wasn't talking about OP(who's just a like-minded person) but the top poster.

sd34

vor 9 Jahrendiscuss

And in Scala:

    if(foo > bar && bar > boo) doSomething(a, b, c)
    else doSomethingElse(d, e, f)

> Yet, if you weren't sure, you'd have to take a short break and go look that up to be certain.

If you don't know how logic works then why programming? Also, this is not a "complex rule", this is just BASIC LOGIC. As obvious as it can be: read it aloud and you have it.

Also, what would this even mean:

    (> foo bar boo)

THIS is what we need to check out because it's everything but obvious.

> So the parenthesis might seem cumbersome at first, but they quickly make syntax quite a lot simpler.

It won't, it'll just make the code monoton and harder to look at.

sd34

vor 9 Jahrendiscuss

I'm also happy that the industry isn't infected with the smugness of talentless coders called "lispers" who have done almost nothing but claim to be the most productive ever.

sd34

vor 9 Jahrendiscuss

> Clojure just turned 10 years old and I see no signs of it slowing down.

It's a niche language which has barely any presence in the industry. It's mostly used with webprogramming which is the easiest domain out there.

Edit: prove it otherwise.

Edit2: it's not me who needs to prove lisp is useful. At least, be honest with yourselves. Edit4: if it's not obvious that you're the one who needs to provide evidence about lisp being useful then you're an idiot.

Edit3: yes, webprogramming is the easiest - is there any easier domain? Then what is it? 3D programming? OS development? Desktop app development? Today's webprogrammers are surely cocky as hell...

sd34

vor 9 Jahrendiscuss

I'm willing to bet that anyone who thinks he's productive in clojure is delusional and don't know how to use a modern functional language.

Lisp is not a family of programming languages but a delusion. Homoiconicity is practically useless and there is no evidence showing otherwise.

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