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Three more AI psychoses, Cory Doctorow

pluralistic.net
10 points·by verisimi·vor 4 Monaten·1 comments

The web is bearable with RSS, Cory Doctorow

pluralistic.net
4 points·by verisimi·vor 4 Monaten·1 comments

Interview with Yafah Edelman about AI welfare

thingofthings.substack.com
1 points·by verisimi·vor 5 Monaten·0 comments

Will Google Become Our AI-Powered Central Planner?

thebignewsletter.com
2 points·by verisimi·vor 6 Monaten·0 comments

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verisimi
·vor 15 Stunden·discuss
Oh no, would Google and Meta be dead? How will we manage?!
verisimi
·vor 5 Tagen·discuss
No one asked you about this. Your government is free to spend its money as it likes, it can send it to the UN.
verisimi
·vor 11 Tagen·discuss
The speed of turn-around sounds impossible. That you are asking for bike lanes - which is already part of most local agendas - is more believable. I daresay if someone asked for the lanes to be removed, they would not get any traction.
verisimi
·vor 13 Tagen·discuss
We were already living in 1984 when Orwell/Blair wrote the book.
verisimi
·vor 13 Tagen·discuss
> It's going to be interesting watching nation states fight over how best to do this

As others have said, there is a coordinated push to drive this legislation everywhere. There is no fight in nation states. Just capitulation.
verisimi
·vor 13 Tagen·discuss
Are you talking from experience? What legislation have you organised?
verisimi
·vor 16 Tagen·discuss
It always was.
verisimi
·vor 19 Tagen·discuss
Why can't they spend the tax money they collected on secret contracts or however they are fit? It's their money!
verisimi
·vor 21 Tagen·discuss
Change the governance. Both red, blue and the corporate sides are supportive of this.
verisimi
·vor 25 Tagen·discuss
Monetary wealth is a proxy for power.

> Does wealth continue to be a coherent concept once very few have all of it? I don't think it's been tried.

I think this is already the case.
verisimi
·vor 30 Tagen·discuss
Nice story. I believe that dogs are capable of moral judgements too. The idea of 'evil' is a human idea though.
verisimi
·vor 30 Tagen·discuss
I agree. But I don't think pecking the eyes of a deer, thereby providing all the crows food, would be considered 'evil'/'bad' by other crows. I think crows would acclaim the action as 'good'/'right'.
verisimi
·vor 30 Tagen·discuss
Thanks for clarifying.

Re matters of degree, I would disagree. The opposite of selfishness would be selflessness. This sounds like a good thing, eg being altruistic is assumed to be 'good', but then, it could also be about imposing one's values on someone, and devaluing the self. It could be a means of control (was forced altruism in communist countries 'good', for example). It seems that 'selflessness' - selfishness's opposite - can also be characterised as 'evil'. If it's not clear whether selfishness or selflessness is evil, it's not clear that it's a matter of degrees.

Ayn Rand argues in the "The Virtue of Selfishness" that selfishness is a good thing, if you want to see a lovely alternative argument.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3URpIKFoyW0
verisimi
·letzten Monat·discuss
'Evil' is a human characterisation, and is not applicable to animals imo; to apply it is to anthropomorphise the animal.

An applicable use of 'evil' for an animal, would be if you believe the animal 'knows better', eg a dog that knows right or wrong (in its way) but does something it thinks it shouldn't.
verisimi
·letzten Monat·discuss
> Great question does intelligence require selfishness / evil?

You think 'selfishness' and 'evil' are equivalent?
verisimi
·letzten Monat·discuss
Its the Apple way too. Its the corporate way.
verisimi
·letzten Monat·discuss
Organic food can use organic pesticides.
verisimi
·letzten Monat·discuss
They (developers) did what they did for money. Just like everyone else. And they would do it all again.

At a corporate level, no one cares about lots of freedoms, except if it is a selling point.

If 'keeping freedoms' is a selling point then the ideal position is to gain the kudos of appearing to support this whilst also getting the benefits of the loss of freedoms. Why not get both?
verisimi
·letzten Monat·discuss
"Presumed". Awesome, dude.
verisimi
·letzten Monat·discuss
You are putting words in my mouth. And not answering anything.

I made a statement, have defended it, asked your position, and in order to sign off with a bad faith message you put words in my mouth (that I admitted my logic has no basis in fact).