winwhiz · HackerTrans

vor 2 Jahrendiscuss

It is also a very Dadaism thing to do. Da!

vor 2 Jahrendiscuss

Yeah, I think I conflated a git specific question from the GP and a more general CLI question, my bad.

The argument can be made the interfacing with git is bad whether with mouse or with keyboard. My git secret weapon is to ask myself how do I make git do this thing that is easy in Subversion or Fossil and then I do that thing and I write it down so I can do it again in X number of months.

winwhiz

vor 2 Jahrendiscuss

Yes, I think we agree that abstraction is great (with or without "scair" quotes.) My point is that CLIs are valued as tools of explication, repeatable explication. I have actually used Window since 3.1. I cherry picked a particularly juicy example that I run into a lot.

> If you're going to make that into a complicated mess, then you absolutely do not get to assume...

As far as tooling goes the GP mentioned IntelliJ so I rewrote code with fleet, I could have easily have picked emacs or vim or bash or zsh or tcsh instead of fish and the complexity of interface would have remained static. I think HN formatting tools are partly to blame for the messiness but if you look at any quality set of docs describing a complicated computer interaction, to achieve the same level of repeatability as text-based, POSIXy interactions you are going to need a lot of screen shots and a few this or thats. WHICH is fine! Remember software engineering is about trade offs!

EDIT: CLI allows for abstractions like $EDITOR and $SHELL

winwhiz

vor 2 Jahrendiscuss

Thanks! This is what I was secretly hoping for. I am doing this a lot lately.

winwhiz

vor 2 Jahrendiscuss

Really simple answer: Repeatability. I am not saying it is the only one right blessed answer, but if you really want to know why people haven't moved to pure GUI interfaces, imagine describing to someone how to add a new directory to their path.

  fleet $HOME/.config/fish.config
  # ADD this line somewhere
  set -x PATH /opt/git/bin $PATH

Or: 1. Either hit WINDOWS-E and right click on This PC and select properties (it might be called something other than This PC if someone renamed it) or either press WINDOWS key or click Start or click the Windows icon (if you don't see them try mousing into a corner of your screen (typically bottom left) until they and the rest of the bar un-autohide) look for and click a gear symbol (should expand to say Settings if you hover), click System, on the left and the bottom you should see About. 2. Click the text Advanced system settings (on the right), look for a new window with a set of tabs, you want Advanced. Click the button Environment Variables. 3. In the top columnar box EITHER find a variable named Path, highlight and click button Edit, in a new window click button New, type '/opt/bin/git' in a text field that has appeared at the bottom list items, click OK OR click the button New, in a new window enter Path for Variable name and /opt/git/bin for Variable value, click OK (you shouldn't need to Browse Directory or Browse File). 4. Click OK button, click OK button, close Settings window.

winwhiz

vor 3 Jahrendiscuss

I'm not trying to be snarky and now I can't even remember where I heard it... but aren't all of Microsoft's keys still flapping in the wind themselves? Thanks to the work of some state actor?

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