Boeing employees 'humiliated' that upstart rival SpaceX will rescue astronauts(nypost.com)
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Boeing employees 'humiliated' that upstart rival SpaceX will rescue astronauts
https://nypost.com/2024/08/25/us-news/boeing-employees-humiliated-that-spacex-will-save-astronauts-stuck-in-space/
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> They have their own PR issues and don’t need two dead astronauts,” he added. “But we didn’t think that there would be dead astronauts. We’d never have recommended that they use us if they thought that it was going to be unsafe for them.
I’m gonna go with NASA on this one I think haha.
I’m gonna go with NASA on this one I think haha.
They should just be humiliated to work at Boeing at this point.
Apparently the entire narrative is built around statments made by "one worker" sometimes referred to as "the employee"
- what sort of news org is New York Post?
- what sort of news org is New York Post?
It's a tabloid.
Whenever newspapers quote an "anonymous source" it's often just some random guy on Reddit or X.
Personally I think anonymous sources should be socially unacceptable in a real newspaper.
Personally I think anonymous sources should be socially unacceptable in a real newspaper.
Anonymous sources are fine if you can rely on the news outlet vetting them. Of course these days you can't so anonymous sources are not fine.
Yeah, uh WHICH employees?
Because Boeing is not an engineering led company. It is a bunch of scum sucking MBAs that attached themselves to a once-successful company and undermined any engineering focus, professionalism, and ethics from the entire management chain.
We're talking about a company that has murdered whistleblowers in all likelihood: https://slate.com/technology/2024/05/boeing-deaths-whistlebl...
This is a fundamentally amoral and corrupt company that should have executives in criminal jail.
Because Boeing is not an engineering led company. It is a bunch of scum sucking MBAs that attached themselves to a once-successful company and undermined any engineering focus, professionalism, and ethics from the entire management chain.
We're talking about a company that has murdered whistleblowers in all likelihood: https://slate.com/technology/2024/05/boeing-deaths-whistlebl...
This is a fundamentally amoral and corrupt company that should have executives in criminal jail.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Barnett_(whistleblower)#D...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Barnett_(whistleblower)#C...
I can't embrace conspiracy theories.
I can't embrace conspiracy theories.
I embrace statistics.
Two whistleblowers, two premature deaths.
Two whistleblowers, two premature deaths.
Good statistics starts with good data. There have been more than 12 whistleblowers by my count.
https://fortune.com/2024/05/09/more-boeing-whistleblowers-em...
Per your original link, 10 appeared after the two deaths. Let's give me a little bit of conspiratorial leeway
Boeing clearly knew they had a big organizational problem. So they tried to intimidate the first two to dissuade more whistleblowing
Unfortunately the opposite happened. You and I both know that they're not going to expedite the deaths of another 10 whistleblowers appearing after the first two die. Then the heat will seriously be on.
I'll even grant you the second death was good old medical incompetence
The first death however is a classic CIA suicide. Quick short note, gunshot to head, other associated evidence.
And yet, why did he repark to a more remote location? Maybe it's shame, but it also suspiciously aligns with an assassin moving the target to a less monitored location.
Boeing clearly knew they had a big organizational problem. So they tried to intimidate the first two to dissuade more whistleblowing
Unfortunately the opposite happened. You and I both know that they're not going to expedite the deaths of another 10 whistleblowers appearing after the first two die. Then the heat will seriously be on.
I'll even grant you the second death was good old medical incompetence
The first death however is a classic CIA suicide. Quick short note, gunshot to head, other associated evidence.
And yet, why did he repark to a more remote location? Maybe it's shame, but it also suspiciously aligns with an assassin moving the target to a less monitored location.
wouldn't a healthy - "we screwed up - why is that, how can we fix it" - be the right shift in company culture?
If Boeing officially states "we're fine with both options, NASA you decide" (according to NASA press conference) they should not be blaming anyone from that point. I understand that this comes from a tabloid and might not represent the company but clearly there seems to be a statistical relevant amount of screw ups at Boeing and none of that happening at SpaceX, why the hate, why not learn?
If Boeing officially states "we're fine with both options, NASA you decide" (according to NASA press conference) they should not be blaming anyone from that point. I understand that this comes from a tabloid and might not represent the company but clearly there seems to be a statistical relevant amount of screw ups at Boeing and none of that happening at SpaceX, why the hate, why not learn?
The fact hubris shows through in this article, it's like they don't see the fundamental cause of their troubles.
They hate spacex, instead of I dunno, respecting a competent rival and learning from them. They don't think there will be dead astronauts, well NASA trusted their iudgement before and now they've got a dead airlock and two stranded astronauts. And they're butthurt that NASA won't listen to them?
> blames NASA
Why am I not surprised?
The article is probably fake (I don't trust anonymous sources anymore) but honestly it would be my image of what I would guess goes on at Boeing.
They hate spacex, instead of I dunno, respecting a competent rival and learning from them. They don't think there will be dead astronauts, well NASA trusted their iudgement before and now they've got a dead airlock and two stranded astronauts. And they're butthurt that NASA won't listen to them?
> blames NASA
Why am I not surprised?
The article is probably fake (I don't trust anonymous sources anymore) but honestly it would be my image of what I would guess goes on at Boeing.
If Boeing (the corporate "person") still ends up making money on this gig, then Boeing (the corporate "person") will get over the humiliation of its cogs, and settle down with a grim new determination to make a buck at any cost.
Title altered from original "Boeing employees 'humiliated' that upstart rival SpaceX will rescue astronauts stuck in space: 'It's shameful'" because of length.
Another bullshit article from a Murdoch rag? If their Australian publications are any guide I would rate their integrity considerably lower than Boeing's management.
Not too surprising a result after Boeing management undertook efforts to subvert their own successful engineering culture and outsource large chunks of it to try and cut costs.
This is yet another example of a disease inherent to American style corporate culture.
Management and sales are viewed as the income producing elements to be nurtured and rewarded. Engineering and production are the cost elements to be restrained, squeezed and controlled.
In summary, American corporate culture embodies a form of narcissistic personality disorder characterized by management's ever increasing rewards/salaries and declining competence. The results speak for themselves.
This is yet another example of a disease inherent to American style corporate culture.
Management and sales are viewed as the income producing elements to be nurtured and rewarded. Engineering and production are the cost elements to be restrained, squeezed and controlled.
In summary, American corporate culture embodies a form of narcissistic personality disorder characterized by management's ever increasing rewards/salaries and declining competence. The results speak for themselves.
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Oh no!
Anyway.
Anyway.
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Good job NASA for picking safety this time!