Show HN: Compression-Resistant Data Transfers(github.com)

29 pointsby iaaan9 months ago6 comments

Show HN: Compression-Resistant Data Transfers

https://github.com/ianling/steg-experiments

7 comments

eru9 months ago

> The current solution works 99% of the time and only rarely encounters errors in practice. It works 100% of the time under ideal conditions (i.e. when not round-tripped through Youtube).

> When encoding some data, each byte is converted to a "tile", which is a rectangle of arbitrary size filled with one of 256 colors. The "palette" used for these colors was specifically tuned to maximize resistance to Youtube's compression.

Sounds like you'd want to add an error correcting code on top?

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Error_correction_code

srean9 months ago

Absolutely!

YouTube's lossy compression algorithm is playing the role and f a lossy channel over which one wants to "communicate". What then one needs is to use channel coding. This is a pretty nontrivial channel though.

eru9 months ago

Yes, the error model for this channel is pretty crazy.

unsnap_biceps9 months ago

I wonder if it could be added to an existing video file in a way that appears to be just noise.

ale429 months ago

It should, in the same way you can embed compression-resistant watermarks. But the bit density would be ridiculously low, depending on the amount of noise you can accept.

rini179 months ago

Seems vulnerable to barely perceptible palette shifting. Would be more interesting to use visual features that video codecs are optimized to preserve.

fighterhao9 months ago