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The United States of America vs. Samuel Bankman-Fried Indictment [pdf]

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652 points·by dereg·4 years ago·691 comments

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dereg
·10 months ago·discuss
Young man me likely would have thought, “wow, cool tradition!”

Old man me thinks “$390 million? How are they funding this?! That seems like a massive sum of money to throw down the drain every 20 years.”

Then I did the back of envelope math. Assuming 20% comes from donations, then all you’d need is a $380m fund earning a real 3% to fund the building of the next temple. That’s very doable.
dereg
·last year·discuss
My main takeaway from this is that Luca Maestri was a blight on Apple. He steered this company into the most malicious of compliance schemes that only has increased their regulatory attack surface. On top of that, he's the one who discouraged apple from making huge investments in compute for LLMs that threatens to derail Apple and the iPhone's primacy as the gateway to information.
dereg
·last year·discuss
You’re only looking at one side of it. Consider how much value that excel adds, and how many use cases it enables. It’s incalculable. It’s always easy to poke at excel’s issues, but errors are almost always a skill issue.

From a financial perspective, there are many ways you could enforce checks to ensure the model is balanced - it just takes time. Data entry can be an issue, but you can automate that too. The deloitte report is saying the health department should benefit from adopting a gigantic erp system but you could get 90% of the benefit by employing a couple people that really know what they’re doing.

You could say that excel should allow those things to happen but the flexibility is precisely what makes it so valuable.

The people writing the reports are consultants. Consultants recommend things that benefit consultants. In their case, a multi year process and tens of millions of dollars trying to install ERP software is more a windfall for the vendors and not the companies.
dereg
·2 years ago·discuss
Apple outsourced chips to IBM (PowerPC) for a long time and floundered all the while. They went into the game themselves w/ the PA Semi acquisition and now they have Apple Silicon to show for it.
dereg
·2 years ago·discuss
If Apple wasn't selling privacy, I'd assume the other way around. Or if anything, OpenAI would give the service out for free. There's a reason why ChatGPT became free to the public, GPT-4o moreover. It's obvious that OpenAI needs whatever data it can get its hands on to train GPT-5.
dereg
·2 years ago·discuss
I can't really dispute any of that.

It took almost a decade but the PA Semi acquisition showed that Apple was able to get out of the shadow of its PowerPC era.

Nvidia will remain a leader in this space for a long time. But things are going to play out wonky and Apple, when determined, are actually pretty good at executing on longer-term roadmaps.
dereg
·2 years ago·discuss
Nvidia obviously has an enormous, enormous moat but I do think this is one of the areas in which Apple may actually GAF. The rollout of Apple Intelligence is going to make them the biggest provider of "edge" inference on day one. They're not going to be able to ride on optimism in services growth forever.
dereg
·2 years ago·discuss
Learning how to write llm function calls.
dereg
·2 years ago·discuss
Can't wait to attempt GUI automation on my iPhone using the mac.
dereg
·2 years ago·discuss
If we know anything about Apple, they're going after Nvidia. If anyone can pull it off, it's going to be them.
dereg
·2 years ago·discuss
Apple Intelligence stuff is going to be very big. iOS is clearly the right platform to marry great UX AI with. Latching LLMs onto Siri have allowed the Siri team to quickly atone for its sins.

I think the private compute stuff to be really big. Beyond the obvious use the cloud servers for heavy computing type tasks, I suspect it means we're going to get our own private code interpreter (proper scripting on iOS) and this is probably Apple's path to eventually allowing development on iPad OS.

Not only that, Apple is using its own chips for their servers. I don't think the follow on question is whether it's enough or not. The right question to ask is what are they going to do bring things up to snuff with NVDIA on both the developer end and hardware end?

There's such a huge play here and I don't think people get it yet, all because they think that Apple should be in the frontier model game. I think I now understand the headlines of Nadella being worried about Apple's partnership with OpenAI.
dereg
·2 years ago·discuss
Regarding Germany and large corporations, and somewhat of a tangent, I remember a decade ago a bunch of hedge funds had tried to sue Porsche, the parent company of VW, for cornering the market for VW’s open interest and cause the mother of all short squeezes.

They tried the case in New York but it got thrown out for lack of jurisdiction. They did try the case in Germany, but Porsche had fittingly cornered the market for the best and biggest law firms. All of the best law firms refused to take the case because it would mean that they’d be essentially blacklisted by the largest companies in Germany for bringing a case against a German company.

It’s taken a decade, but I now see a pattern.
dereg
·3 years ago·discuss
There weren’t 200 holdouts. It was like 5 AM over there. I don’t know why you are surprised that people who work at OpenAI would want to work at OpenAI, esp over Microsoft?
dereg
·3 years ago·discuss
Likely connected to the fact that they released voice chat for free users an hour ago. https://x.com/openai/status/1727065166188274145

Assuming these two things are related, if I may editorialize just a tiny bit, I am a little annoyed at how much their rollouts often disrupt service for paying customers. Paid users being impacted by free user rushes really sucks, but is understandable. API developers being impacted by free-user rollouts is unacceptable, and especially sucks for those who have to answer to users of their own.

I suppose this is a wakeup call to migrate to Microsoft's Azure endpoints which, presumably, aren't affected by the current outages. But I'm fully tapped out in terms of yet another service's application and vetting process.

So to connecting it back to the current drama, while I support OpenAI, their employees, and Sam's return, I can understand why folks like Helen would be miffed by management's approach to building. I'm not saying they should slow product development, but would staged rollouts hurt?
dereg
·3 years ago·discuss
Don't forget Tasha McCauley's husband, Joseph Gordon Levitt, has been vocally anti-AI during the SAG-AFTRA strike, an event for which AI was a huge point of contention. It's a poisoned board.
dereg
·3 years ago·discuss
Seems all but confirmed that Sam is going back to OpenAI.

https://twitter.com/sama/status/1726345564059832609
dereg
·3 years ago·discuss
You have! The Apple Vision Pro is slated to be released by the March/April 2024. The device has only been made possible by the steady march of Apple Silicon.
dereg
·3 years ago·discuss
Saying the chips haven't enabled any sort of innovative products it's like driving down the interstate wearing goggles, err, blinders. Let's check back in four months.
dereg
·3 years ago·discuss
I do think he was the chief architect of the coup. I do think his beliefs and ideals are still valuable flora for a company of this ambition. There just needs to be a more professional structure for him to voice them.

Dealing with folks like Ilya isn't necessarily a matter of if, but how much.
dereg
·3 years ago·discuss
I think that his beliefs are important to the company. A board shouldn't be a homogenous glob nor should it be like a middle school friend group. What he did was both bizarre and amateur, but I believe in the best of us all the come forward from these types of events.