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We’re All Living Under Gravity’s Rainbow

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8 points·by trieste92·3 years ago·5 comments

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trieste92
·3 years ago·discuss
Yeah I think I'm done with this website after reading this
trieste92
·3 years ago·discuss
congrats, this was probably the most awful thing I've read this week
trieste92
·3 years ago·discuss
> I was gaslighting myself for a while that they were just busy, but when I heard about a couple of social things that I wasn't invited to, I realised that the friendships weren't on hold, they were hanging up.

I feel this. It's incredibly painful to make that kind of realization and it's hard not to be resentful about it

This happened to me and I was bitter about it for about 2 years, should've been in counseling but didn't even realize I was bitter
trieste92
·3 years ago·discuss
> I moved to the US (Bay Area) about 10 years ago after having spent much of my youth elsewhere, and to this day, I haven't been able adjust to the lack of informal social interactions compared to where I'm from. I really tried as well to see if it's me who is not able to fit

In the same boat. In HS and college, would have somewhat frequent get togethers and then COVID came and ruined it

Idk if the bay area is just like this or if I'm just going through a phase. It's probably just me
trieste92
·3 years ago·discuss
> It has very high social trust, low inequality, very low crime, affordable housing, universal healthcare, and so on.

I wonder how long these metrics will last. Social trust is definitely a new one that's been added after mid 2010s
trieste92
·3 years ago·discuss
> You can't solve a culture of pervasive government surveillance by inventing new tech, because that tech will just be outlawed or regulated to death

I call bs. New regulation moves slower that the rate at which people can find workarounds
trieste92
·3 years ago·discuss
nowhere in that thing do I see any mention of things like work life balance, it's just a bunch of claptrap about "infrastructures of oppression". Whatever that's supposed to mean

no wonder it's a small union. No economic incentives? No thanks
trieste92
·3 years ago·discuss
So at this point what's your argument? Change the subject, make up a slippery slope, and then scream about "fascism"?

What's your goal here? To be so ridiculous that any sort of compromise is impossible? Hope that works out for you
trieste92
·3 years ago·discuss
> against the wishes of both its practitioners

Because our wishes conflict with their economic motives

> the people receiving the treatment, who say it helps them

Again, children who aren't able to consent

> Why are you so invested with what choices people make for themselves, again, with the consideration of their doctors and families?

The same reason why I think the distribution of opiates should be tightly regulated. Because I see something that's inherently wrong, and I see corporations benefitting from it
trieste92
·3 years ago·discuss
> "Allowed" is a telling choice of words though! You're advocating for a state-enforced limit on what people are allowed to choose for themselves.

To children. What people are allowed to do to children

> Which is why the permission of their parents acts as a limit on what they're able to agree to, in this case as in all others.

If a parent comes forward and says "I consent to my child getting sterilized", should that be the only criterion necessary? You said "all" here, so you think that the case I provided is also covered?

> The anti-trans moral panic is the tip of the spear of fascism in north america

https://www.euronews.com/next/2023/02/16/as-spain-advances-t...

Would you describe Sweden as a fascist country? For (generally) prohibiting giving hormonal therapies to children?
trieste92
·3 years ago·discuss
> The term "transition" as used here is a euphemism that covers interfering with a child's puberty in a way that is likely to sterilize them for life if the treatment persists, and surgical destruction of breasts, and in some cases, genitals.

> I think most people, understanding the reality of this in stark terms, would be dead against children transitioning.

The only reason why this hasn't been outright banned for minors yet is because older voters don't know what's happening.

It's funny, I see a NYT article that literally just repeats these things out loud so that everyone can see what's happening, and then they get attacked for just describing what's happening

What's being done right now is so damning, no criticism is necessary. Only visibility. The people who want to hide facts from the public can only do this for so long
trieste92
·3 years ago·discuss
> why aren't experts in the field taking that evidence into account?

Money. Build your entire career around treatments for trans minors, and without them you have no career
trieste92
·3 years ago·discuss
> but then actually mean something else “kids shouldn’t be allowed to transition” and then introduce legislation to that effect.

Minors aren't capable of consent. The treatments have permanent side effects and lead to sterilization. One of the drugs used to aid in "transitioning" is lupron, which is also used to sterilize sex offenders

The only reason why any of this is allowed to happen is because the general population doesn't see what's happening. Criticism or "explanations" aren't necessary, all that's needed is visibility so that everyone can see what's being done and vote accordingly
trieste92
·3 years ago·discuss
> The only reason anyone is talking about it is because he’s trying to use it as a cover story

Why are people trying to make this guy sound clever and self aware? He sounds unhinged
trieste92
·3 years ago·discuss
> The guy has been seriously unhinged for a long time no doubt made much worse by the ability of uber-rich dudes to surround themselves with sycophants.

Kanye 2.0
trieste92
·3 years ago·discuss
Why are people trying to read some bullshit ulterior motives out of what this guy is doing?

He knows what he's doing. There's nothing "clever" about it. Someone talks about these things in this kind of way, it's clear as day what their intentions are

Seeing the people here trying to read "subtlety" out of this fuck is infuriating
trieste92
·3 years ago·discuss
"satire" isn't a defense for this guy

There's this trend: people say awful, transgressive shit and then say "oh we were only kidding"

Also there's another trend: megalomaniac celebrities falling off the far right deep end and saying progressively crazier shit

I don't remember it being this bad in the early 2010s. It's only getting worse. Young people see this and it becomes more normalized, they become more desensitized to hate. Politicians come in and funnel this hate into legislation. I can't see this heading in a positive direction
trieste92
·3 years ago·discuss
> I can’t tell are for effect / satire or whether he’s changed his point of view in a rational way or whether he’s becoming unhinged

Why are people here trying to give this guy a way out with satire? His comics are satire, but someone who has the audacity to stir the pot over this kind of shit clearly has little regard for the difficult topics in question

Sounds to me like he's unhinged and pulling a Kanye
trieste92
·3 years ago·discuss
I read HOD a couple times, which is related to European subjugation of Africa

Nowhere in it do I find any sort criticism of the harms that were done. He describes the awful conditions in the Congo, but does not necessarily oppose them

The language he uses to describe the Africans is hostile at best. A poignant example is the part about the "insolent black head" peaking through the doorway while Kurtz lay dying

Not saying that Penguin should've removed his name because that's a different argument, but I have no idea how/where you're getting anticolonialism out of Conrad and I'd genuinely like to know

Edit: what did I get out of HOD? The death of God. Kurtz goes out to a corner of the Earth that was yet to be corrupted by capitalism. Marlow goes on a journey with no message in particular, he's a witness to the historical event
trieste92
·3 years ago·discuss
Values like this?

> A certain enormous buck n*** encountered in Haiti fixed my conception of blind, furious, unreasoning rage, as manifested in the human animal to the end of my days. Of the n*** I used to dream for years afterwards.