Show HN: JQBX – Social Listening Web/Mobile App(jqbx.fm)
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Show HN: JQBX – Social Listening Web/Mobile App
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Hi everyone, I posted a comment a little while ago that gained some traction so I'm posting my solo project here. JQBX is a social listening platform that lets you listen to music in real time with anyone anywhere. You can also chat, vote, and save tracks that other people have played. JQBX uses the Spotify as the backbone for all this so you need a Spotify Premium account to use the app. Happy to field any technical questions anyone has. Thanks!
My girlfriend and I have had a blast using jqbx over the past few months. Really nice work!
Can whole playlists be added to the queue? If not, have you planned to add the possibility to do so?
Yeah they can- theres a comment somewhere that explains how. In short: Click the "Playlists" tab, select your playlist, click "Add Playlist to Queue"
"Indie While You Murder <3", heh
FYI, the term "social listening" has an entirely different meaning in the marketing industry (it means social media monitoring). So some people might get confused as to what you're showing.
What percentage of JQBX's users are in the marketing industry? Not that I necessarily disagree. But does it definitely matter?
For me the term 'social' in the context of some new app or site has some negative connotations. Using 'group' or perhaps 'collaborative' would be more neutral, I think.
EDIT: as others have suggested.
EDIT: as others have suggested.
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That is exactly how I interpreted "social listening" at first.
Thanks- I'll start changing the language, had no idea. What would you call something like this though? Curious what might convey the idea better.
"Listen with your friends"?
"Listen together"?
On the other hand, if you want a buzzword, "social listening" seems fine because it is only used in a niche that most potential users aren't living in. Sure it might run up against VC conceptions. That points to its real problem: "social listening" is a product category more than an activity.
"Listen together"?
On the other hand, if you want a buzzword, "social listening" seems fine because it is only used in a niche that most potential users aren't living in. Sure it might run up against VC conceptions. That points to its real problem: "social listening" is a product category more than an activity.
Jason, I really like the term crowdsourced. As in real-time crowdsourced streaming radio or the like.
You could say "Group Listening" or "Collaborative Listening" possibly.
Perfect, works for me! Will use "Group Listening" from now on. Thanks
I'd agree with that approach. 'social' is burdened with a variety of meaning, and a lot of it not too positive. 'group listening' sidesteps any of those possible concerns.
Social Radio?
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This is by far my favourite new app, I love finding out about new music from all sorts of people, and it's great to just put on when you have some great DJs in the room.
One suggestion I have is to have some sort of "Schedule" (or "Happy Hour") function for the rooms. Because the issue I have is when I log on and check out if there are rooms I like are active, most of the time there wont be any DJs in the room. I'm not usually going to hang out in a room by myself (nor I expect other people to wait around for more people to join). So, if we had a function where admins/mods of rooms can send out a message/email to people who have favourited the room to "come back at 8:00PM EST for Happy Hour". And also have schedule messages for people in the room so they know when to come back and there will be more people.
Could definitely be one of the /bot functions too (I saw one of the EDM rooms doing this but it requires some organization by the admin's part, which most people wont bother with).
One suggestion I have is to have some sort of "Schedule" (or "Happy Hour") function for the rooms. Because the issue I have is when I log on and check out if there are rooms I like are active, most of the time there wont be any DJs in the room. I'm not usually going to hang out in a room by myself (nor I expect other people to wait around for more people to join). So, if we had a function where admins/mods of rooms can send out a message/email to people who have favourited the room to "come back at 8:00PM EST for Happy Hour". And also have schedule messages for people in the room so they know when to come back and there will be more people.
Could definitely be one of the /bot functions too (I saw one of the EDM rooms doing this but it requires some organization by the admin's part, which most people wont bother with).
Thanks!
You actually can do that already- I think I just need to make it more obvious. If you're an admin of a room you can 'broadcast' a message to all the people who have saved your room. The message gets sent via email to those users. Keep the feedback coming though if you have more- just shoot me an email.
You actually can do that already- I think I just need to make it more obvious. If you're an admin of a room you can 'broadcast' a message to all the people who have saved your room. The message gets sent via email to those users. Keep the feedback coming though if you have more- just shoot me an email.
Yeah, I think making the "Schedule/Happy Hour" more of a thing would help more. Sending a message is good, but it leaves it up to the admins to organize/think of doing it every day. What about on the "all rooms" page above each "Genre" description of a room, there could be a "Happy Hour" time slot that admins can enter and will show up. That way, this will attract people to come back that havent even favourited the room (or will require people to check their email, haha). So they can see immediately "hey, there isnt anyone in this room now, but if I come back from 8-12 EST, there might be some more people here".
Thanks again for creating this program, really hope this stays active for years to come.
Thanks again for creating this program, really hope this stays active for years to come.
Ah I think I see what you mean now- like a suggested activity window for each room. Cool idea, I'll add it to the roadmap. Thanks again :)
For somebody who consumes as much music as I do, this is one of the greatest things ever created to discover new music.
Especially...if you get a handful of like minded individuals in a room putting their minds together to make the best set ever.
I usually listen to about 8 hours of music a day on the application and have added around 4,000 songs to my Spotify Library. Most of the songs are songs that I have never heard before.
I also think that tying it to the Spotify Premium subscription is important so that the site can avoid any issues with labels.
In the past there was another site like this called turntable.fm while it was shut down I gained a bunch of friendships, and I could honestly say it is the reason why I became a developer.
In other words its awesome.
Especially...if you get a handful of like minded individuals in a room putting their minds together to make the best set ever.
I usually listen to about 8 hours of music a day on the application and have added around 4,000 songs to my Spotify Library. Most of the songs are songs that I have never heard before.
I also think that tying it to the Spotify Premium subscription is important so that the site can avoid any issues with labels.
In the past there was another site like this called turntable.fm while it was shut down I gained a bunch of friendships, and I could honestly say it is the reason why I became a developer.
In other words its awesome.
This is awesome. I was a DJ back in the early 2000s using Shoutcast [0] to stream. A lot of issues with obtaining music and obviously streaming rights.
This is so easy to whip up your own station with a legit music source. Barrier to entry is much lower than having to figure out how to configure all of the software and connect to the actual stream server. The DJ software had some cool features like fade-in/fade-out, etc. but the music and the DJ's ability to speak to the audience were the important part. The chat element here could replace that. Something like this seems like it could be the next evolution in online radio.
Awesome work!
[0] https://www.shoutcast.com/
This is so easy to whip up your own station with a legit music source. Barrier to entry is much lower than having to figure out how to configure all of the software and connect to the actual stream server. The DJ software had some cool features like fade-in/fade-out, etc. but the music and the DJ's ability to speak to the audience were the important part. The chat element here could replace that. Something like this seems like it could be the next evolution in online radio.
Awesome work!
[0] https://www.shoutcast.com/
I remember this from a recent discussion about cross-platform mobile stacks, so I now know it is built on React Native :) Great work!
Thanks!
Mobile is React native, Mac Desktop app is electron + react and website is react. For anyone else wondering.
Mobile is React native, Mac Desktop app is electron + react and website is react. For anyone else wondering.
Would be interested to learn more about how you share components/code between RN and React!
Feel free to shoot me an email jason[at]thebestagency.com if you have anything specific. At a high level a lot of the components end up being pretty different because the UI is naturally pretty different. They share some functions but the "DOM" is mostly rewritten. But the redux actions and reducers are all pretty much the same (small changes depending on how to store state but that could definitely be abstracted away).
> But the redux actions and reducers are all pretty much the same (small changes depending on how to store state but that could definitely be abstracted away).
Are you using a monorepo? The reducers/actions are copied/pasted for each version? Thanks!
Are you using a monorepo? The reducers/actions are copied/pasted for each version? Thanks!
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I'm not sure how the licensing works, but would it be possible to allow guest users to act as a "speaker" - and only require Spotify Premium when upgrading to DJ features?
If I have a group of 100 people in a similar physical location, I'd like to be able to have 100 speakers in sync. Requiring them all to create an account, let alone purchase Spotify Premium, is unfortunately too much to ask.
If you have some control over the payment model, I'd even be interested in paying an extra fee as a DJ in order to enable more remote speaker connections.
If I have a group of 100 people in a similar physical location, I'd like to be able to have 100 speakers in sync. Requiring them all to create an account, let alone purchase Spotify Premium, is unfortunately too much to ask.
If you have some control over the payment model, I'd even be interested in paying an extra fee as a DJ in order to enable more remote speaker connections.
In that scenario, you would have to have 100 accounts. It is possible to get licensed to do that (i inquired about it for an app i wanted to expand www.r3vl.com) but those music API services require a 6 digit sum of $$$ for commitment... so i moved on
quick edit, if those 100 speakers were simply ONLY broadcasting, you could get licensed as a radio, but if you want the ability to have others select songs, it is pricey
quick edit, if those 100 speakers were simply ONLY broadcasting, you could get licensed as a radio, but if you want the ability to have others select songs, it is pricey
Definitely going to check this out. I'm a big fan of social listening sites. I run a bot in a room on Dubtrack.fm[1]. Before Dubtrack we were on Plug.dj. I love that you have Spotify integration.
Any chance you'll add the ability to queue up YouTube and/or Soundcloud songs?
1. https://www.dubtrack.fm/join/chillout-mixer
Any chance you'll add the ability to queue up YouTube and/or Soundcloud songs?
1. https://www.dubtrack.fm/join/chillout-mixer
I think you'll like JQBX then! Re. YT & Soundcloud: I'm exploring it. My goal was to get everything feature complete w/ just Spotify to keep things focused. But once all the kinks get sorted out it's definitely on the roadmap.
Maybe add Apple Music as well ? Not sure if it supports this kind of integration. Really great app btw. Thx for sharing!
First of all - awesome app will give it a good testing this week! I've been using Discord's party-listen (or whatever it's called feature). Spotify enforced some random restrictions like - if I'm talking for more than 30 seconds then it assumes that I'm illegally streaming to music so it pauses the song immediately.
Have similar silly restrictions been enforced on JQBX to your knowledge?
Have similar silly restrictions been enforced on JQBX to your knowledge?
No but I'm sure our scale is a bit different and I can see how that could be an issue since they probably don't want to dish out cash for streams to people who aren't there. I take care to make sure that you're not AFK but it's on the scale of hours and not 30 seconds/minutes.
This is awesome! I'll use it at work with colleagues. We have tried https://www.ampme.com, which I really didn't like. It was more targeted at playing exactly synchronised on the speakers of multiple devices to boost the volume (and at least when I tried it, it was mobile only).
Great work! Looking forward to using it!
Great work! Looking forward to using it!
Thanks! Yeah I played around with ampme and sounds like their case as I remember it. Our use case is more for listening to music in sync with other people and voting / chatting in real time.
You can also use it w/ colleagues not in the same office. A lot of people have had success using it in their office if they work remote or have a lot of employees that do.
You can also use it w/ colleagues not in the same office. A lot of people have had success using it in their office if they work remote or have a lot of employees that do.
That looks amazing. Does anybody remember grooveshark? It had their own little group of popular DJs who would live-edit their playlists and thousands would listen in. This leads me to the question: Do I need to know the person(s) I'm listening with or can someone actually generate a following through your platform? Also, what do you need camera access for?
Thanks!
1. You don't need to know the person in order to listen with them. What you do is you create a room (or join an existing one) and then you can either step up and DJ in the room (with friends or strangers) or you can just do nothing and listen to what people play. You can also make rooms private if you want to do it w/ just people you know.
2. I need camera access so you can upload your avatar. I should probably only request it at the time of upload however- so that's my fault and I'll look into fixing it.
3. I didn't try that Grooveshark feature but it sounds similar. It draws a bit of inspiration from turntable.fm which has been out of business for a couple years.
1. You don't need to know the person in order to listen with them. What you do is you create a room (or join an existing one) and then you can either step up and DJ in the room (with friends or strangers) or you can just do nothing and listen to what people play. You can also make rooms private if you want to do it w/ just people you know.
2. I need camera access so you can upload your avatar. I should probably only request it at the time of upload however- so that's my fault and I'll look into fixing it.
3. I didn't try that Grooveshark feature but it sounds similar. It draws a bit of inspiration from turntable.fm which has been out of business for a couple years.
I’ve been using JQBX for a month or two - I hang out in The Jungle. Very nice software; congrats @jqbx_jason. The bots are fun.
I have struggled to log in on mobile, it would be great to integrate Facebook’s official log-in API for those of us with FB-based Spotify accounts. Otherwise the process is quite painful.
I have struggled to log in on mobile, it would be great to integrate Facebook’s official log-in API for those of us with FB-based Spotify accounts. Otherwise the process is quite painful.
I've been on JQBX just about every day for a while now. The sense of community on this site is amazing.
Thanks! Couldn't do it without you :)
I've been a fan and user for over a year. JQBX is a great replacement for turntable.fm
I love this app!
My only problem is that it’s too fun — I have a hard time using it at work because I get too engaged chatting, saving great tracks and adding my own to a channel.
Next I plan to use this at the gym to keep myself and a few friends workout playlist in sync.
My only problem is that it’s too fun — I have a hard time using it at work because I get too engaged chatting, saving great tracks and adding my own to a channel.
Next I plan to use this at the gym to keep myself and a few friends workout playlist in sync.
As an aside, I love the color design of this site. It's dark, which I prefer, but it has a lot of color. The colors might be a bit.. awkward, but for some reason I still love them.
Thanks, I'm glad you're liking it the way it is now!
I totally agree that the colors are in a slightly awkward place. The design sort of grew from where I originally started and now I think I need to find a different, maybe less saturated, shade of dark blue to put everywhere.
I totally agree that the colors are in a slightly awkward place. The design sort of grew from where I originally started and now I think I need to find a different, maybe less saturated, shade of dark blue to put everywhere.
This is awesome for a silent disco home party! Or silent disco’s for larger areas where connection is an issue
With that in mind; maybe voting for the next song instead of current?
With that in mind; maybe voting for the next song instead of current?
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Been addicted for a few months now, really great to see how it's shaping and developing in this rich community. Hope it sticks around for a long time.
I remember finding this few weeks ago, and one thing I found lacking was a way for multiple users to add songs to the same queue... Is it possible now? Or at least are there any plans for it?
(in case it's not clear what I mean: IIRC, last time I checked, if you had multiple DJs only the songs from the first DJ would play, followed by all the songs from the second one and so on)
(in case it's not clear what I mean: IIRC, last time I checked, if you had multiple DJs only the songs from the first DJ would play, followed by all the songs from the second one and so on)
Hey- it still works the same way w/ multiple DJ's. I thought about adding another 'mode' for a single queue (similar to how soundbounce used to work) but it's put on hold for now while I clean up some of the other details and make things more stable overall. It may come eventually but it'll probably be a few months.
A quick hack would be to make your Queue playlist collaborative and then multiple people could update it- but that may not be exactly what you're looking for either.
A quick hack would be to make your Queue playlist collaborative and then multiple people could update it- but that may not be exactly what you're looking for either.
Thanks for your reply.
For now I'll check JQBX again, because last time I was so focused on finding a collaborative queue app for my workplace that I hadn't stopped to see its public rooms.
For now I'll check JQBX again, because last time I was so focused on finding a collaborative queue app for my workplace that I hadn't stopped to see its public rooms.
How do I import my already created play list from my account. I can't seem to see the playlists I'd like to play as a DJ.
Click the "Playlists" tab (center of the page on the website, separate tab on mobile) then click on the playlist you want and on the top right click "Add Playlist to Queue". And the playlist will get added to your queue.
Wow I'm blind. Thank you!
It's a really good app. Surprisingly addictive and fun. Come hang out in the jazzcats room!
I really love this concept. I usually use YT recommendations to find new music, but it's too narrow-minded to come up with things which are totally new to me. Dumb noob question - would making this app "Spotify agnostic" amount for a complete rewrite?
Thanks! Not a complete rewrite, but definitely a refactor of all the logic for playing audio and syncing audio between users (and some UI changes). I would also need to do a dive into each platform's API specifics and make sure they give permissions to pause, search, seek, and play.
I love this!
But I get "Sorry <song> not available in your country" for many songs even though I can play them on spotify directly. Some of these songs are actually added by me when DJ-ing. Any reason for this?
It's due to Spotify's regional licensing of music rights as it relates to labels in various countries and really has nothing to do with jqbx.
The download for macos seems to be a bit broken, it's meant to be going to download.jqbx.com but it's not redirecting. I think it might be a cert issue (firefox dev edition). Looks cool though, going to give the web app a go.
Thanks- looking into it now. It works for me on Chrome, will check FF dev.
Squarepusher, avalanches? Damn, how well do you know me? I gotta try this later.
I spoke too soon, don't have a mac but would be interested if linux was an option.
Very cool! I'm impressed! Even just as a replacement for the Spotify UI.
I have a feature request :) Would it be possible to show the time a track has started to play in the history? Someone made a comment about a track he was going to play next, but I only read it ~20 minutes later so I don't know which track he was referring to. Maybe this would also be interesting in cases where you can't check the current playlist right now but want to know which track was playing at a specific time.
Oh, I just noticed that the currently playing track is shown next to a comment. So I can figure out the first case. But if I'm e.g. driving and can't check the playlist right now it would still be useful to be able to check later what was playing at a specific point in time.
Will this work with / any plans to make it work with a Sonos speaker?
I've been playing JQBX over Sonos as Jason described. It works pretty well. It does seem that the app player is needed for this as the web player will play one song over Sonos and then revert to playing on the device where the web app is running.
Yes I definitely want to make that integration work. As it stands it's a bit of a pain since it's not included in Spotify's connect API. I have a Sonos so I feel your pain.
A quick fix (if you run OSX) is to download the Mac App and then direct your Spotify App to your Sonos speaker. Then it will work as expected. For now thats the only way to hook them up w/o a wire.
A quick fix (if you run OSX) is to download the Mac App and then direct your Spotify App to your Sonos speaker. Then it will work as expected. For now thats the only way to hook them up w/o a wire.
Any way to create a general front-end that can hook into multiple streaming services? This looks cool, but I'm on Google's whatever-they're-calling-it-now music subscription plan.
I want to do it but it's tricky since I would need 1. some sort of universal identifier for each track so I can keep everyone in sync 2. API access to search, play, pause and seek. TBH I'm not sure if that's possible but I'll definitely look into it once I take care of the remaining high priority issues/features.
I'm having an issue where songs will play but it randomly moves to the next song without finishing the current song. Is anyone else seeing this? Is there a Spotify setting I need to change?
Have you tried clicking "Sync Audio" also what version are you using (Mobile app or Web App)? Feel free to shoot me an email jason[at]thebestagency.com if you want help troubleshooting.
I'm using the Web app, looks like it was something on my end causing the problem. All good now, thanks for the quick response.
Any particular reason this can't work with Spotify free account?
Yes, their API doesn't let allow for music streaming / playback access unless you have a Spotify Premium account. Also even if it did there would probably be an issue w/ keeping people in sync assuming Spotify wanted to continue to play audio ads for free users of their API.
I could see this being super popular, looks really well done!
I appreciate it, thank you!
Great but you are dependent on Spotify. I don't use spotify, I often listen off youtube for example and it would be good fallback.
Any plans to support Apple Music?
I bet Apple Music does not have an API as open as Spotify's.
Yeah they don't have a Web API. They have a mobile SDK though so it would be possible for the iOS app (not sure about android) only at the moment.
The ghost of TurnTable.fm!
Chinese app Xiami already has this