How the Hell Are We OK with China?(howthehell.substack.com)
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How the Hell Are We OK with China?
https://howthehell.substack.com/p/china-genocide
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Stop buying products made in China. I personally made that decision years ago. Support local manufacturers as much as you can. What CCP does is disgusting.
Tank Man is scrubbed off the search engines? Bing [0] and DuckDuckGo [1]
[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27395635
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27399017
[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27395635
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27399017
It's fine to go off about China
But its finer to go off about the US and Israel
I'm assuming the author is American
Unlike with China, we/America at least indirectly control Israeli policy against the Palestinians
We could literally just snap our fingers and our oppression of the Palestinians with the help of Israel would end overnight
Just cut off arms sales and supplies and diplomatic support
Some of which is required by US (Leahy) law, and is just being ignored.
There is no reason for us to support the worse-than-Apartheid state that we/America and Israel are imposing on the Palestinians
We supported the South African Apartheid regime for decades until the pressure got to be too much
Then we magically were for human right all along
China sides with the Palestinians whenever the US makes a peep about the Uygurs
They're calling out our hypocrisy
But its finer to go off about the US and Israel
I'm assuming the author is American
Unlike with China, we/America at least indirectly control Israeli policy against the Palestinians
We could literally just snap our fingers and our oppression of the Palestinians with the help of Israel would end overnight
Just cut off arms sales and supplies and diplomatic support
Some of which is required by US (Leahy) law, and is just being ignored.
There is no reason for us to support the worse-than-Apartheid state that we/America and Israel are imposing on the Palestinians
We supported the South African Apartheid regime for decades until the pressure got to be too much
Then we magically were for human right all along
China sides with the Palestinians whenever the US makes a peep about the Uygurs
They're calling out our hypocrisy
Why the smart people of the world decided to stop investigating further and taking position against strong human rights abuse ? I suppose that they are pending to take diplomacy path with China and Russia to avoid having another north Korea.. and work around slowly towards the problem, a be world war at modern times would be the end for everyone..but what the hell..
> By contrast, the consequences for China will be catastrophic. They will have trouble finding enough food for their citizens, tens of millions of people will lose their jobs, their current account will go negative and their currency will plummet.
This claim is unsubstantiated.
China is a really big country, with a whole lot of natural resources. As this article itself points out, the US imports more from China than we export to them.
The article says that if the US stops trading with China, between 10 and 12 million American workers will be out of a job but will find new jobs as the American economy adapts to sourcing things internally. It then says that tens of millions of Chinese workers will be out of a job... and doesn't conclude that they will find new jobs as the Chinese economy adapts to sourcing things internally. What's different about the two cases?
Also, I might remind you that the consequence of China using enslaving a minority is that they have a bunch of slaves. Not only do they have the resources to rapidly and painfully expand their agricultural capabilities, they'll have the perfect excuse for it.
The problem with dealing with China is not (precisely) hat the Western powers that be think that that what they're doing is okay. It's that we have (through our own past mistakes) put ourselves in a position where we have no meaningful leverage to stop them other than a third world war.
(But also, the average Western politician worried about China isn't worried about genocide, they're worried about losing 5G contracts.)
This claim is unsubstantiated.
China is a really big country, with a whole lot of natural resources. As this article itself points out, the US imports more from China than we export to them.
The article says that if the US stops trading with China, between 10 and 12 million American workers will be out of a job but will find new jobs as the American economy adapts to sourcing things internally. It then says that tens of millions of Chinese workers will be out of a job... and doesn't conclude that they will find new jobs as the Chinese economy adapts to sourcing things internally. What's different about the two cases?
Also, I might remind you that the consequence of China using enslaving a minority is that they have a bunch of slaves. Not only do they have the resources to rapidly and painfully expand their agricultural capabilities, they'll have the perfect excuse for it.
The problem with dealing with China is not (precisely) hat the Western powers that be think that that what they're doing is okay. It's that we have (through our own past mistakes) put ourselves in a position where we have no meaningful leverage to stop them other than a third world war.
(But also, the average Western politician worried about China isn't worried about genocide, they're worried about losing 5G contracts.)
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Who gets to call out the government of China on their bad acts without being a racist for doing so? Trump couldn't, but now that he's gone is it OK again?
I kinda wonder what the people of China think of this; on the one hand its their government and their mess; on the other it's hard to damn them as complicit for ignorance and apathy no worse than my own.
I kinda wonder what the people of China think of this; on the one hand its their government and their mess; on the other it's hard to damn them as complicit for ignorance and apathy no worse than my own.
For six years after Adolf Hitler’s rise to power in 1933, Hollywood studios avoided making films that made the Nazis look bad, because they did not want to lose access to the German market. […]
Now history seems to be repeating itself, with the studios kowtowing to Communist China. […] John Cena, star of the new Fast and Furious movie, just issued an abject apology for casually referring to Taiwan as a “country.”
Now history seems to be repeating itself, with the studios kowtowing to Communist China. […] John Cena, star of the new Fast and Furious movie, just issued an abject apology for casually referring to Taiwan as a “country.”
The lesson from history is that we don’t learn from history.
Don't look surprised. The US has also gotten away with stuff that a smaller country wouldn't have gotten away with. These countries can only be stopped by their own internal processes, but its own people. Not by foreign countries.