It’s time to admit that Remote Work doesn’t work(twitter.com)
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It’s time to admit that Remote Work doesn’t work
https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1663958149437743105
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That's weird, I worked at home for 12 years in a small company. We wrote software that sold 2 million copies, but I guess it doesn't work
That doesn’t sound super successful.
That was successful for the 80/90's and actually I mis-spoke, we sold a million and a million were estimated to be pirated
Depends how much they're selling it for, support contracts, etc. With the right combination of those, 2MM copies could be amazing.
Compared to what? Do you think all companies are FAANG?
Palantir is valued billions and they've only sold a dozen copies of their software, so...
He talks about hybrid which I agree is shit. Too much juggling going on.
You either go full remote and organize yourself around async and better written communication. Or you all sit in the office the whole time and much of the comms is just talk. The in between sucks.
I worked full remote and it works fine. Teams were working well, information flowed, blockers were dealt with. We didn't even use our cameras in meetings. Now I worked for 1 month hybrid and am quitting. This has all the downsides from both remote and on site working.
You either go full remote and organize yourself around async and better written communication. Or you all sit in the office the whole time and much of the comms is just talk. The in between sucks.
I worked full remote and it works fine. Teams were working well, information flowed, blockers were dealt with. We didn't even use our cameras in meetings. Now I worked for 1 month hybrid and am quitting. This has all the downsides from both remote and on site working.
We went all remote during the pandemic, now different people use all three options.
If you’re remote it works well enough.
If you have an office when you’re in the building it works well enough.
If you have to use the cubes it’s a disaster.
You can hear other people in Zoom meetings all day.
You can hear the other people in your Zoom meetings that are in the office twice.
Of course you may have trouble hearing your meeting anyway due to the other meetings, or people standing around talking.
You can’t grab a meeting room for just you. A bunch of people who are in the same meeting can use a meeting room’s conferencing setup. Unfortunately it works very poorly for people on both sides of the call.
Maybe it would be better with taller/bigger cubes. Or sound deadening foam. Maybe not.
Straight hybrid, without doing anything different to all in office, does not work. And I don’t think many companies would invest that kind of time/capital even if it would improve productivity.
If you’re remote it works well enough.
If you have an office when you’re in the building it works well enough.
If you have to use the cubes it’s a disaster.
You can hear other people in Zoom meetings all day.
You can hear the other people in your Zoom meetings that are in the office twice.
Of course you may have trouble hearing your meeting anyway due to the other meetings, or people standing around talking.
You can’t grab a meeting room for just you. A bunch of people who are in the same meeting can use a meeting room’s conferencing setup. Unfortunately it works very poorly for people on both sides of the call.
Maybe it would be better with taller/bigger cubes. Or sound deadening foam. Maybe not.
Straight hybrid, without doing anything different to all in office, does not work. And I don’t think many companies would invest that kind of time/capital even if it would improve productivity.
Exactly... People sitting next to me ping me on team chat instead of talking.
Everyone zoom calls all the time where I can hear other people in other zoom meetings in our zoom meeting. I hate it.
when we worked full remote. We gave a stipend to setup with proper microphone/headphone setup. We requested people to sit in a quiet location for meetings. Worked wonderful...
this hybrid shit just makes everything much worse....
Everyone zoom calls all the time where I can hear other people in other zoom meetings in our zoom meeting. I hate it.
when we worked full remote. We gave a stipend to setup with proper microphone/headphone setup. We requested people to sit in a quiet location for meetings. Worked wonderful...
this hybrid shit just makes everything much worse....
This https://krisp.ai/ works well to overcome background noise and conversations during meetings. It cleans up the audio you send and also the audio you receive. Not affiliated with them at all, just a satisfied customer.
NOOOOOOO you can’t just stop making work culture favor dark triad personalities and poltickers who advance on others work!!! How will people like me ever make it?
My company does hybrid (for local folks) and full remote (for distributed folks, worldwide). Working great. David Sacks is the ultimate rich blowhard
> Remote is a great lifestyle, not a way to build a great company.
The two are not necessarily mutually-exclusive. What's wrong with scheduling interactions, or simply working asynchronously? Yes, it's a bit slower, but why do we need to rush all the time?
The two are not necessarily mutually-exclusive. What's wrong with scheduling interactions, or simply working asynchronously? Yes, it's a bit slower, but why do we need to rush all the time?
Nah it works fine, you just think culture happens by accident and that one solution has to work for everyone like most other sub-par managers do
It's time to admit that we don't need to work more than 3 days a week to be happy.
Said by someone who doesn't actually do the work.
He literally said remote... "work doesn't work". Do we comprehend how primitive the discussion level is here? I know it's twitter, but this is basically a parody of the debate around remote work.
Some jobs require isolation, some require interaction, most require switching between both in a semi-structured semi-stochastic manner, and we can't just decide "work doesn't work" without specifics like... what kind of work, and in what kind of organization.
This is just noise produced by stupid people trying to have a hot take on everything they barely understand. Like politics talk in a pub.
Some jobs require isolation, some require interaction, most require switching between both in a semi-structured semi-stochastic manner, and we can't just decide "work doesn't work" without specifics like... what kind of work, and in what kind of organization.
This is just noise produced by stupid people trying to have a hot take on everything they barely understand. Like politics talk in a pub.
Guy in high profit position advocates for employee hours being closer to CEO hours.
No matching advocacy for employees getting near his level of pay, however.