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CityOfThrowaway
·hace 24 días·discuss
This particular company is literally bootstrapped and makes hundreds of millions of dollars profitably
CityOfThrowaway
·hace 28 días·discuss
Then the offers are fair and your assessment of your labor value is disproven by the market rate.
CityOfThrowaway
·hace 28 días·discuss
Using your own logic, if we need investors to make the whole thing work, then an investor playing their role has obviously earned their take. If they didn't exist, many things would simply never have been created.
CityOfThrowaway
·hace 28 días·discuss
So what? He owned the stock, he gets to share in the gains.

If we believed that the only people who should be morally allowed to benefit from asset appreciation are the people who actively work for that company, the entire economy would collapse.

For example, every pension fund, endowment, retirement fund, etc. are all invested in financial assets that they had NO role in. All they do is own something that become more valuable as other people labor and innovate! Shall we cast them as evil capitalists?
CityOfThrowaway
·hace 2 meses·discuss
This is usually founder-led not investor led
CityOfThrowaway
·hace 2 meses·discuss
I've raised venture from a lot of the big firms (and a lot of small firms) and have never had any of them attempt to force me to use anything.
CityOfThrowaway
·hace 2 meses·discuss
It's a term of art that straightforwardly means people who embrace AI-assisted programming. As opposed to the very large number of engineers who actively don't like it, or have enough change aversion to have avoided it.
CityOfThrowaway
·hace 2 meses·discuss
Sure, but we're talking about Coinbase, which is a relatively young company not staffed with a bunch of old people in the first place.

It's totally random to accuse them of using "AI-native" to fire old people.
CityOfThrowaway
·hace 2 meses·discuss
No, it's obviously not. There is nothing about being old that prevents you from being AI-native.
CityOfThrowaway
·hace 2 meses·discuss
In some sense, the fun pockets still exist of course.

On the other hand, the algorithmic schelling points starve weird-ish corners of scale. The network effects + psychological draw of the single stream feeds is a powerful force.

The algorithmic spaces still have lots of weird. Maybe more weird than ever. But they also feel more bled of community (or even iterated contact with the same people).

It's a strange combination of facts. Maybe OPs post is not true in the literal sense, but it feels correct in the spiritual sense.
CityOfThrowaway
·hace 3 meses·discuss
OTOH, if you're willing to accept human-level error rates... why would you not do so at a burst-scalable task per minute and 1/1000th the cost?

I've built large human data entry operations. Variable throughput, monotony, hiring and perf management and firing, management, quality management. All of these things are large investments of human effort and money.

If I can achieve the same quality level (or in some use cases, even slightly degraded output) with software scaling characteristics and costs... I see zero reasons outside regulatory compliance reasons to have people do it.
CityOfThrowaway
·hace 3 meses·discuss
I think this is a bit dramatic of a comment. Credit card numbers relayed over the phone are not deterministic...

"four three uh let's see sorry my vision is bad six eight..."

Easy versions of problems are easy. But reality is messy.

And no, neither I nor anybody else is expecting a 50B parameter model to find every instance. But finding 90% or 95% or 99% is pretty good, and sufficiently good for many use cases.
CityOfThrowaway
·hace 3 meses·discuss
I dunno what use case you're thinking this is for.

The use case for this is that many enterprise customers want SaaS products to strip PII from ingested content, and there's no non-model way to do it.

Think, ingesting call transcripts where those calls may include credit card numbers or private data. The call transcripts are very useful for various things, but for obvious reasons we don't want to ingest the PII.
CityOfThrowaway
·hace 3 meses·discuss
> Regarding bad weather; if winter is bad enough for bicycles to fail, then certainly it is not safe to drive either

This is a big claim with no justification.

Cars have dynamic traction control, internal temperature control, etc. You may get frost bite on your bicycle, but almost certainly not in your car. Having four wide wheels makes the vehicle radically more stable.

Add seat belts, air bags, etc. cars have far more safety features than a bike can.

Of course, cars go faster and going faster increases lethality at the limit. No argument there, far more people die in cars in general. But specifically concerning weather, cars allow people to do many things that a bicycle cannot.

Not to mention general comfort. Being in a bike in a snow storm is very unpleasant!
CityOfThrowaway
·hace 4 meses·discuss
This basically boils down to, "Sure, we recommended you work with scammy low-quality auditors, but if you actually use them it's your own fault... we're just an automation tool!"

In other words, I'm reading this as effectively a full admission that the claims are true but the company is saying not their responsibility.

Very, very bad.
CityOfThrowaway
·hace 6 meses·discuss
You say that there's no skill in using AI, and then go on to explain how you used AI in an unskilled way to produce something that neither worked correctly nor taught you anything.

It strikes me that if you developed your skill set around using AI more effectively, you could have both developed a deep understanding and gotten what you wanted, and done it in less time and at higher quality than you could have done solo.

That said, the fact that you can use AI in an unskilled way to produce something kinda cool... is itself kinda cool! It means there's an on-ramp to using AI! People with no skills can get started, same day, and make stuff. And over time, can learn to make even better stuff! That's pretty cool to me.
CityOfThrowaway
·hace 8 meses·discuss
Are they your ideas if they go through a heavy-handed editor? If you've had lots of conversations with others to refine them?

I dunno. There's ways to use LLMs that produces writing that is substantially not-your-ideas. But there's also definitely ways to use it to express things that the model would not have otherwise outputted without your unique input.
CityOfThrowaway
·hace 8 meses·discuss
I'm anon, but also the farthest thing from a progressive, so I find this post amusing.

I don't disagree with a lot of what you're saying but I also have a different frame.

Even if we take your claim that LLMs don't make people better writers as true (which I think there's plenty to argue with), that's not the point at all.

What I'm saying is people are communicating better. For most ideas, writing is just a transport vessel for ideas. And people now have tools to communicate better than they would have been.

Most people aren't trying to become good writers. That's true before, and true now.

On the other hand, this argument probably isn't worth having. If your frame is that LLMs are expensive toys that ruin everything -- well, that's quite an aggressive posture to start with and is both unlikely to bear a useful conversation or a particularly delightful future for you.
CityOfThrowaway
·hace 8 meses·discuss
In a lot of ways, I'm thankful that LLMs are letting us hear the thoughts of people who usually wouldn't share them.

There are skilled writers. Very skilled, unique writers. And I'm both exceedingly impressed by them as well as keenly aware that they are a rare breed.

But there's so many people with interesting ideas locked in their heads that aren't skilled writers. I have a deep suspicion that many great ideas have gone unshared because the thinker couldn't quite figure out how to express it.

In that way, perhaps we now have a monotexture of writing, but also perhaps more interesting ideas being shared.

Of course, I love a good, unique voice. It's a pleasure to parse patio11's straussian technocratic musings. Or pg's as-simple-as-possible form.

And I hope we don't lose those. But somehow I suspect we may see more of them as creative thinkers find new ways to express themselves. I hope!
CityOfThrowaway
·hace 9 meses·discuss
As the saying goes, "If you're not a liberal when you're 2.5, you have no heart, and if you're not a conservative by the time you're 4.5, you have no brain"