> fluoride intake levels (0.93 [0.43] vs 0.30 [0.26] mg of fluoride per day; P = .001).
> Children had mean (SD) Full Scale IQ scores of 107.16 (13.26), range 52-143, with girls showing significantly higher mean (SD) scores than boys: 109.56 (11.96) vs 104.61 (14.09); P = .001.
The average IQ of people in the UK is 99.12 and in Canada 99.52 [3]. Let us suppose that the hypothesis is true; it is expected then that in a country with higher average consumption of fluoride, we would, consistently, see lower average IQ.
> Above-average consumption of tea, as recorded in Great Britain, could result in fluoride intakes as high as 8.9 mg per day [4];
We observe that the average consumption of Fluoride is about an order of magnitude larger in the UK, yet, IQs are almost identical. Which hints that if such a relationship exists, it is not as pronounced (5 IQ points) as the article claims.
Maybe somehow women in the UK consume 20x less Fluoride when they are pregnant (what's the prob of this?), maybe people in the UK are just built different and their superior genes compensate and without the Fluoride they'd be at 104-105ish. Given history and similarity between societies, this looks unlikely.
So until a causal mechanism is found, I am inclined to disagree over the "proven fact" statement.
Given the comments on the psychological experiments conducted on Ted Kaczynski, I feel that sharing this experiment [again] is worthwhile. The following is an excerpt from the wikipedia page:
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The Third Wave was an experimental social movement created by California high school history teacher Ron Jones in 1967 to explain how the German population could have accepted the actions of the Nazi regime during the rise of the Third Reich and the Second World War.[1][2][3][4][5]
While Jones taught his students about Nazi Germany during his senior level Contemporary World History class, Jones found it difficult to explain how the German people could have accepted the actions of the Nazis. He decided to create a fictional social movement as a demonstration of the appeal of fascism. Over the course of five days (or nine, according to student Sherry Toulsey), Jones, a member of the SDS,[6] Cubberley United Student Movement sponsor[7] and Black Panthers supporter[8] – conducted a series of exercises in his classroom emphasizing discipline and community, intended to model certain characteristics of the Nazi movement.
As the movement grew outside his class and began to number in the hundreds, the experiment had spiraled out of control. He convinced the students to attend a rally where he claimed that the classroom project was part of a nationwide movement, and that the announcement of a Third Wave presidential candidate would be televised. Upon their arrival, the students were presented with a blank channel. Jones told his students of the true nature of the movement as an experiment in fascism, and presented to them a short film discussing the actions of Nazi Germany.[9]
Part of releasing AWS products to customers involves getting cleared by AppSec plus other compliance teams. The products are supposed to be ready months in advance before the AppSec and other teams start working on them.
> As an example, we're not far from some arguing against the existence of a great many people because an AI can objectively do their jobs better.
We are already here.
The problem is that everyone seems to take capitalism as the default state of the world, we don't live to live, we live to create and our value in society is dependent on our capacity to produce value to the ruling class.
People want to limit machines that can enable us to live to experience, to create, to love and share just so they keep a semblance of power and avoid a conflict with the ruling class.
This whole conundrum and complaints have absolutely nothing to do the models' capacity to meet or surpass us, but with fear of losing jobs because we are terrified of standing up to the ruling class.
> Ask it to solve novel mathematical and logic problems
How exactly do you define novel tasks and problems?
My brother has had it do his programming homework (he's a teenager), written in Greek mind you and therefore novel task to the first-degree, and it succeeded. Thus it solved a logic task [1].
I have had ChatGPT parse math I had written in LaTeX and reach a correct result, do modifications and so on.
> Further, an AGI should logically attempt to "improve" its understanding of the world during a conversation, yet chat GPT never initiates a topic or asks you anything at all (even to clarify what you mean). It also repeatedly reminds you that it is only a language model.
Anecdata: I asked Bing (GPT4) to answer a few stuff and it asked for clarification twice in a row. The fact that it repeatedly clarifies its prompt is not a limitation of the underlying model as much as it is a limitation of the interface that injects a prompt. Dan and all the other jailbreaks out there bypass that.
I’d add that this is a great opportunity for OP to treat it as akin to “rustlings” or a possible analogue, where they break different functions that they know work, and building it up again s.t. the tests pass fine.
I am sorry that my messages have been misinterpreted. I wasn’t trying to gaslight or emotionally manipulate anyone. I didn’t imply that you are treating me differently either, and i am sorry my messages caused such feelings.
I was genuinely looking for something to hold on to, that the people I called fascists are just confused and manipulated into hating people like me.
You are right, you don’t owe me anything. But it’s beneficial to ask and search for “what we owe to each other”.
I hope I didn’t take away your capacity to believe in people and made you cynical.
It seems that at the beginning of the conversation i failed to follow Scanlon suggestion. Today is another day, today i will try to be better. We live, we learn we grow, we change.
Nothing I could express will ever be satisfying enough to convince, let alone persuade you into responding earnestly.
Whether you respond to me it’s entirely up to you… you need to choose to believe that people can change, as I have changed … you have to choose, despite all odds, to try to do the right thing, not just now, but every time, despite how difficult it may be, despite how disappointing the expected result may be, you have to choose to believe in people..
I have opened my heart, i have expressed my deepest fears.. I have been crying all the way from work to my home… i want to believe in people…
I want to believe that people can look past what makes me “different”, and look at me as a person struggling to live with their circumstances, trying to live an honest life and be a good person…
I am only human, I am terrified, and I am sorry.
I just want to live… for the first time I have a reason to and i am terrified that i will get beat or worse…
You have no reason to… you need to choose, to choose to leap into faith.
If you choose not to, I want you to know that I am sorry, and .. I understand why you chose not to. I’d have probably done the same.
I am asking you, as a trans person fearing for their life, how i should call the people i am terrified of, the people who seem to hate me for my mere existence without ever interacting with me, who have already decided that i am going to hell and seem to want to help me go there sooner.
I do have friends with different political beliefs. They don’t know about my “status”, they have expressed horrific comments about LGBT people without seeing the irony in the fact that said beliefs are learned and so i just dont say anything so as to not out myself.
I was politically on the “opposite” side of this, until somebody showed me empathy for the person I am, they helped me learn to love myself instead of hating my mere existence.
For the first time i have something to live for, and all i see is attacks against people like me on the rise. For the first time, I have something to lose.
I just want to live, unapologetically, for me as me, and yet i am terrified of the people who openly call for the murder of those just like me.
Enlighten me then, if not with the word "fascist", how should I characterize the class of people that apparently wants me dead, and as a collective exhibit all 14 characteristics of Fascism as defined by Umberto Eco?
Which word has sufficient gravitas to convey that I am genuinely scared about my friends in red states who can't leave? To convey the terror of hearing about yet another shooting towards people just like you?
Which word can I use to describe people who don't want me to live?
Which word can adequately describe the class of people that carry such vile acts or condone them?
No blanket statements made. I spoke about the GOP, referring to the leadership. No blanket labeling.
I merely continued the discussion from this context:
> sometimes you can't have nice things because there are people who will abuse them.
> there are actual Nazis out there who want to put people in ovens, so it's taboo to make jokes about how they may have a point.
> similar thing with trans people, you mention them and trolls come out of the woodwork saying they should kill themselves.
The fact that you keep claiming that my responses do not relate to the matter at hand indicate that you are willfully ignoring context whenever it suites you. You have repeatedly avoided actual discussion of the matter at hand, the position I put forth, and instead relied on sly attempts to dismiss everything I said.
Your behaviour is not appropriate for a website that values arguing for claims.
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As for this website for "curious" discussion is not a website where paraphrasing Popper of all people and mentioning the statements of a political leader in the same comment gets you flagged.
You keep deflecting from the subject at hand, and never actually engaging with it... So much for "discussion".
As the other comment said, there's difference between JAQing off and genuinely asking questions.
If you wish to ask questions, there are places where you can very much do so, like r/honesttransgender. You can read papers on the topic, you can read experiences, and you can pose questions in a manner that isn't antagonizing people.
If you wish to blame somebody for the "intolerance" towards the "just asking questions" rhetoric, there are plenty of "news" anchors that cause mass hysteria and purposefully misrepresent information to push their ideology.
Matt Walsh "just asked questions", while supporting, and condoning violence against trans people. Shapiro "Just asked questions", and so does Carson or whatever that guy's name is.
So now trans people have to justify their own existence as people and live in fear because of said people who "just ask questions".
You see, if you wish to learn, there is a time and place for it, antagonising people who genuinely fear for their life by using the same rhetoric the above people used to fuel a rabid and bloodthirsty base you are showing that you don't actually care about people, or at least that's the impression that you are giving.