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No it's absolutely not. Your risk of dying, or of having life altering chronic illness, from not immediately seeking medical attention if you are having a heart attack or stroke is far higher than your risk from COVID, and those people aren't showing up at hospital right now.

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hace 6 añosdiscuss

Sure, but by getting yourself worked up you're not improving that situation any.

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hace 6 añosdiscuss

Even if we have one, the larger problem will be scale. Having more than one type of effective vaccine available may actually be useful, since our existing manufacturing capacity for the different manufacturing processes can be used.

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hace 6 añosdiscuss

So according to In The Pipeline[1] they essentially modified their existing MERS vaccine so that it worked for SARS-COV-2. Their original vaccine had already gone through phase 1 trials and had shown efficacy and no harmful side effects.

[1] https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/04/23/a-...

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Here's the thing though, that binary choice is predicated on what we know right now, tomorrow we may know more, and we will definitely know more in a few weeks, in a month or two we may know enough that we have better choices to make. Our ability to treat this virus is very limited right now, but that may not be true in a month, so just throwing up your hands and saying let everyone die now when we don't have good treatment options is basically just signing peoples death warrant for no good reason.

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hace 6 añosdiscuss

This is misinformation, immunity works like it does for everything else. The virus is new to us, not magic.

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hace 6 añosdiscuss

That's science though. You have to just try and learn as much as you can, from as many different directions as possible, because we have no idea which approach will lead to useful discoveries until it does.

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hace 6 añosdiscuss

Your prior should be that immunity works as it does with every other virus and you should require very strong evidence to the contrary (evidence, not anecdotes) to convince you otherwise. Throughout our evolutionary history we have come into contact with innumerable viruses and to a greater or lesser extent we have immunity to all of them post exposure. For many our immunity is long lived, on the order of years.

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hace 6 añosdiscuss

I don't think anyone is suggesting that we restart everything back to normal in 3 weeks.

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hace 6 añosdiscuss

Much longer, but there is no alternative. If we don't, in a few weeks our hospitals are beyond breaking point.

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hace 6 añosdiscuss

I think it's a pretty safe prior to have that our immune system will work effectively against this virus post exposure. This isn't the first time a virus has crossed the species barrier in all of our evolutionary history and we've survived so far.

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hace 6 añosdiscuss

This is going to take much longer than that to play out.

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Also true for the California State universities and community colleges in the bay area.

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hace 6 añosdiscuss

Assuming that immunity lasts for an extended period or indefinitely, which we have no way of knowing yet.

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hace 6 añosdiscuss

It depends on how bad it gets, if people are dying by the thousand I think the conventional wisdom will be we should have done more. Even with these measures I fear it wont be nearly enough to avert catastrophe.

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