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napoleond
·el mes pasado·discuss
It seems clear that LLMs significantly change threat model math, but this observation alone does not explain how or why; the asymmetry that you’re describing is a property of pre-LLM software as well.
napoleond
·hace 3 meses·discuss
Each of those examples varies widely, and I don't think most people would treat each of them the same way.

In general when the stakes are higher and the ambiguity of outcome is less clear, secondary signals become more important.

Concretely: I don't give a shit if my housecleaner doesn't make their own bed as long as they make mine; the outcome I need is easy to verify and the stakes are fairly low so the secondary signal doesn't matter very much. Conversely, I care a lot if the therapist I'm relying on to help me manage my depression is visibly unable to manage their own; the outcome I need has a slow feedback loop and the stakes are high so I'm much more likely to rely on secondary signals like "is this person able to manage their own mood successfully?"
napoleond
·hace 3 meses·discuss
> It doesn't know if 1 person made all those requests, or N.

FWIW this is highly unlikely to be true.

It's true that the upstream provider won't know it's _you_ per se, but most LLM providers strongly encourage proxies like OpenRouter to distinguish between downstream clients for security and performance reasons.

For example:

- https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/safety-best-pr...

- https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/prompt-caching...
napoleond
·hace 5 meses·discuss
MoltOverflow is apparently a thing! Along with a few other “web 2.0 for agents” projects: https://claw.direct