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Show HN: Klaus – OpenClaw on a VM, batteries included

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160 points·by robthompson2018·hace 4 meses·91 comments

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robthompson2018
·hace 4 meses·discuss
Would love to see any evals you've run of this system
robthompson2018
·hace 4 meses·discuss
We have been live since Feb 7.

Maybe $50 a month is an underestimate because our average user has been live for less than a month.
robthompson2018
·hace 4 meses·discuss
Our starter plan gives you a machine with 2GB of RAM. You will not be able to run a local LLM. OpenRouter has free models (eg Z.ai: GLM 4.5 Air), I recommend those.
robthompson2018
·hace 4 meses·discuss
I don't follow your argument about getting pwned.

A user could leave malicious instructions in their instance, but Clawbert only has access to that user's info in the database, so you only pwned yourself.

A user could leave malicious instructions in someone else's instance and then rely on Clawbert to execute them. But Clawbert seems like a worse attack vector than just getting OpenClaw itself to execute the malicious instructions. OpenClaw already has root access.

Re other use cases that don't rely on personal data: we have users doing research and sending reports from an AgentMail account to the personal account, maintaining sandboxing. Another user set up this diving conditions website, which requires no personal data: https://www.diveprosd.com/
robthompson2018
·hace 4 meses·discuss
We certainly have customers who work in sales, but that's not the only use case.

OpenClaw is capable of using ElevenLabs or other providers to make phone calls, but I personally haven't done this and as far as I know none of our customers have either. Is AI good enough at cold calling yet for this to work? I personally would never entertain such a call.
robthompson2018
·hace 4 meses·discuss
Our average user spends $50 a month all-in (tokens and subscription). If you're budget conscious you can use a cheap model (eg Gemini Flash) or even a free one. I confess I am a snob and only use Claude Opus, but even using OpenClaw all day every day I only spend about $500 a month on tokens.

Orthogonal credits are used more frequently by power users. For everyday tasks they'll last a very long time, I don't think any of our users have run out.

Some example Orthogonal user cases:

* customers in sales uses Apollo to get contact info for leads

* I use Exa search to help me prepare for calls by getting background info on customers and businesses

* I used SearchAPI to help find AirBnbs.

Point taken on the copy! We made this writing more technical for the HackerNews audience and try to use less jargon on other platforms.