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tt24
·hace 2 meses·discuss
Ah, I see, you have an emotional / personal investment in this topic. That’s why my harmless request for evidence offends you.

I won’t engage further then because it won’t be productive. I’ll continue to call out baseless claims of course, but I don’t think there’s any amount of argumentation or evidence that could convince you since you arrived at your position via feeling - proof or citations are just window dressing.
tt24
·hace 2 meses·discuss
In what way was I being opaque? I have no obligation to say “Give me evidence (btw I disagree with you)” lol.

I’m sorry that asking your side to support its claims is so offensive to you. I can’t say I relate to this mindset. It’s completely foreign to me.
tt24
·hace 2 meses·discuss
I very much have an opinion on the subject and never claimed otherwise. My opinion is that lobbying is a nonissue and there’s very little money in politics, and that money doesn’t really impact political outcomes.

What makes you think that this is something I’m obscuring?
tt24
·hace 2 meses·discuss
It’s surprising to me as well. Such an innocuous question. Don’t fully understand why people found it offensive enough to flag.
tt24
·hace 2 meses·discuss
Asking for evidence of claims is very offensive to those who don’t have any.

They feel very strongly about a topic, but it’s entirely based on their various personal experiences. They arrive at the conclusion first, and then try to arrange reality around their opinions.
tt24
·hace 2 meses·discuss
In what way did I bristle?
tt24
·hace 2 meses·discuss
There was nothing wrong or offensive with my phrasing.
tt24
·hace 2 meses·discuss
Do you have evidence that lobbying is what produced this outcome?
tt24
·hace 2 meses·discuss
How are those two things contradictory
tt24
·hace 2 meses·discuss
Don’t have any. Not concerned with whether you believe me or not
tt24
·hace 2 meses·discuss
Feel free to cite something that proves that Australian diets are similar to American diets. I don’t believe claims made without evidence.

Deaths are pretty much 1:1 with drug use. Us having more fentanyl deaths mean we have more fentanyl users. Feel free to cite something that proves that Australia has the same amount of drug users as the United States.

It’s a contributing factor. Americans consume healthcare at much higher rates for many reasons, some of which I listed above. I’d fully expect Americans to pay more when they consume more.
tt24
·hace 2 meses·discuss
Why is the power distributor failing to supply a customer with sufficient clean energy?
tt24
·hace 2 meses·discuss
Get mad at power plants not producing more power then

> They have a right, if not an obligation, to be concerned about water consumption and pollution, especially in an already drought stricken area, near a drying, poisonous lake.

Same

> They have a pretty good reason to be upset about adding an extreme amount of heat and CO2 in an area where the tourism for skiing and snowboarding plays a huge role in tourism for the nearby counties, despite lowest snowpacks on record year over year.

How do they add heat and co2? Just produce more clean energy lol

> Also as a citizen, I would be furious is my elected officials ignored the locals in favor of 2 other officials' pressure and opinions.

Why should locals have any say whether I buy some land and build a building that houses computers in it? I'd prefer officials ignore local's opinions as much as possible, we'd have more housing and cheaper compute by now
tt24
·hace 2 meses·discuss
> Like artisan families unable to continue the craft

Not sure what this is referencing

> Like factories funneling community wealth into the hands of a few capital holders.

Idk how this relates to present day

> Like dangerous working conditions maiming workers and children

same

> Like a disenfranchisement of skilled labor leading to worse wages, worse hours, and less prosperity.

Same

> Like a disenfranchisement of skilled labor leading to worse wages, worse hours, and less prosperity.

Same. No evidence for any of this
tt24
·hace 2 meses·discuss
> Australians eat a substantially similar diet to Americans

Sorry I don't believe this

> Gee, I wonder if not having healthcare (including access to things like therapy and rehab) might drive up drug death rates

Lol, yeah that's why we have so many fentanyl addicts, the lack of therapy, I'm sure that's it

> Sure; you didn't address how it's responsible for 3x the healthcare costs.

Gunshot wounds obviously, we have way more guns and gun crime than Australia
tt24
·hace 2 meses·discuss
I didn’t say obesity, I said unhealthy eating. Those aren’t the same thing.

I straight up don’t believe the drug use one, we have way more fentalyl deaths than you and it’s not even close.

You didn’t address crime. We have much more of it. More gun ownership and gun usage as well.

I’m not quite sure what this anecdote has to do with my comment.
tt24
·hace 2 meses·discuss
Yeah they are. Americans engage in more unhealthy eating, crime, and drug use than Australians. It’s very easy for me to believe that they’re 3 times as sick.
tt24
·hace 2 meses·discuss
Yeah because we consume way more than other countries
tt24
·hace 2 meses·discuss
Dang, can we take a look at this one please? It’s not a productive, helpful, or interesting comment. Thanks!
tt24
·hace 2 meses·discuss
The service is not “free healthcare for any procedure ordered by a doctor all the time without limits”, they have the right to refuse something they feel is unnecessary