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Publishing studies is sharing. All students of a subject should learn study design in their first semester (I know I didn't and didn't have to back in the day). Every study should be peer-reviewed by students in their second semester and in their last. Master students should then be required to review multiple in their last semester. I know they are not skilled enough yet. The point is knowledge production in their brains and circles. All of it should be published. All of it should be translated in multiple variations by AI assisted humans from multiple countries. There should be a HN/ribbon farm types forum where these peer-reviews can then be discussed by the smart and curious mob (including PhDs). Studies should be randomly assigned. All resources necessary should be paid by a direct tax of billionaires. I will stop reading stuff on HN now.

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well, the tuning of training data results in at least some predictions that resemble varying models of systems 1 and 2 thinking. there is no reasoning at all. it's all models of reasoning, tokenized by opinionated taxonomical algorithms and degrees of systemic, academic/conventional human interpretation (tags) that are far from capturing the general human experience.

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wow, that sounds bad, sorry. i just get stuck if i write that stuff in a notebook. this forums level and kind of interaction helps keep the chain of thought going at the same temperature and in the intended hue.

i shouldn't do this again, though. apologies, if I annoyed someone or got them into a bad mood.

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the fact that you can manually tweak your prompts for any problem and agent, is still super useful (joke: *and the only reason our civilization still exists)

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I'm not gonna read that book. I started and stopped after few chapters because it is based on and aims at manufacturing minds that follow game theory logic. Science (studies, reviews and application) got damaged quite a bit when too many people started following game theory logic.

We are, from our aware POV, a very young civilization.

And you only ever need game theory logic when you have to survive, got no thing and no skill to trade and you are too pathetic to move back in with your parents to work on your mind and or fuckability. Making money by ways of game theory logic compensates for all that but also diminishes the survival chance of the users' offspring to zero once super-unalligned AGIs start to assess the entire supply chain of wealth and how it impacts the evolution of human organisms and the ones inside them.

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isn't any instruction a subclass of inference? and doesn't any phrasing (lexicology) simply translate "down" to the heaviest values which, varying with the fine tuning, are the words that are, consensually and conventionally, the simplest ones that convey the meaning of the original word in the prompt, which should be the least ambivalent/least interpretable (again, fine tuning can broaden the scope) oneS. thus the LLM fulfills the "translated" instructions step by step and comes up with both or either the correct reasoning and answer.

details and technicalities, especially liminal ones, aren't as conventional and consensual as the name of the current set it is to be interpreted in.

so almost all mistakes of LLMs can be blamed on the lack of variety of human translations. multiple translations are only common for subtitles, mangas and manhwa as far as i know, or when some dude or dudette is proficient and passionate in two languages and reads a bad/weak translation of a (usually classic) novel. why the fuck would a human properly retranslate automated documentations or googles dev blog? or books on logic, in any science, books on art and aesthetics and whatnot. technical people don't need to care because, practically, there are no interpretations in algorithms and the rest of the code, except when a programming language does something weird on the (or someones) machine, which isn't that common by design.

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PR. (semi-)internal conflicts giving the impression that a company is maturing/fighting guilty, conscious, good and better, selfish and humane, rational and transcendent intentions.

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much more likely that the culprits will be people with proper sight and values refusing to occupy the relevant positions in society, economy and politics.

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well, it all might be circuits giving birth to consciousness-es. like when matter bounced around and formed planets and stuff, except it's information parsed by evolving circuits in as many forms as possible just because there's always this one dude or dudette who's a bit slow on the uptake.

but then again, go outside and holla that fake shit. everyones trained and tutored by of through and for emotional bondage. even, or rather, thanks to the dreaming mind the art itself is disconnected and alienated from the manipulated and corrupt artist. it's not the kids playing music anymore, it's their shadows or their guts if you so will. once the music stops they are all back to being regular bots again. we all have only so much energy for putting up a good show, there's none left for playing our selves, for being honest, which is why it's easier to outsource as much as possible to digital and superego algorithms; just choose a flavor or more and the sim remains stable and fun and the kids will have stuff to digest and remix forever

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hace 2 añosdiscuss

there are always teaching positions. "nutty greybeards teaching nutty kids". connect with the nerd and maker culture and ask around, in case you decide to go with and for progress.

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get slightly drunk, with a low dose of amphetamines (u can be sober too) and make them your friends. start with little ones. talk to them, observe them, be gentle. repeat until you're ready to let them let you touch them. easy peasy. i did the drunk version. worked like a charm

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I appear to be reasoning at times but I have mostly no idea what I am talking about. I hit a bunch of words and concepts in the given context and thus kind of hallucinate sense.

Given a few months of peace of mind and enough money for good enough food, I could actually learn to reason without sounding like a confused babelarian.

Reasoning is mostly a human convention supported by human context that would have been a different one if the Fascists had won the war or the Soviet Union wouldn't have gotten corrupted.

But none of that has anything to do with pulling up a whiteboard to draw some flowcharts and run some numbers, all of which is why I am certain there is nothing the devs have "to fix". It took most reasonable humans many generations to learn stuff. Very few of us did the actual work.

It's all just a matter of time.

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I'm neither smart nor a dev, but there is no need to feed the kid the internets data anymore, is there? The kid gets enough data fed to it by direct user input aaand that makes the kid preconfigured well enough to recognize and leave trash where it finds it, except if it can be up- or recycled but thats a long story.

Corporate data, research, books, blogs, any tokens the kid will train itself on will "feel" right in it's stomach and not "too heavy" or "too light" for its semantic mass. The rest of what the rest of the internet might have to offer in the future (comment sections) is so predictable, it would be a duplication of effort the next gen of AI won't waste any RAM on.

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