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Show HN: Adentris (YC P25) – Find mistakes in your medical records

16 points·by digitaltzar·il y a 3 mois·4 comments

Launch HN: WorkDone (YC X25) – AI Audit of Medical Charts

79 points·by digitaltzar·l’année dernière·60 comments

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digitaltzar
·il y a 3 mois·discuss
Thank you!
digitaltzar
·l’année dernière·discuss
Greatly appreciated!
digitaltzar
·l’année dernière·discuss
Thank you!
digitaltzar
·l’année dernière·discuss
Agreed, many reasons to admire them
digitaltzar
·l’année dernière·discuss
:)
digitaltzar
·l’année dernière·discuss
Thank you for these thoughts. I think billing inefficiencies caused by documentation make both hospitals and insures lose - one will get paid later, one will pay anyway, but the process is costly for patients who finance both, in the end of the day :(
digitaltzar
·l’année dernière·discuss
Thank you so much! Lets explore! Could you please ping me at [email protected] or let me know what is the best way to connect
digitaltzar
·l’année dernière·discuss
My friend who works now as an engineer at Apple interviewed with Epic 6 years ago - he got a guidance from a fellow to make a few mistakes in test tasks to increase chance of getting a job offer, and it worked - he got the offer
digitaltzar
·l’année dernière·discuss
Thank you, human stories like this made us passionate about solving this issue! Talked today to a behavioral health clinic that has 65 different payors, all with own set of billing rules and documentation standards!
digitaltzar
·l’année dernière·discuss
The agents are LLM-based but for orchestration we use other ML methods
digitaltzar
·l’année dernière·discuss
Thank you for the insights, I believe the challenge they have is related to CPT coding - not mistakes or errors, but the completeness' of clinical picture fro m the billing/insurance standpoint. A lot of this coding knowledge is tribal and resides in the head of clinicians. We can help, would greatly appreciate an introduction to your wife's colleagues at [email protected] (Dmitry Karpov), thank you!
digitaltzar
·l’année dernière·discuss
Very insightful, thank you! A comment on claim-amplifying customers - optimizing for the insurance payouts actually forces providers to adopt certain standards of compliance for medical records - here we are not talking about mistakes but about depth of CPT coding (the biggest for value-based care providers), etc. And it is not about claim but the underlying documentation of care
digitaltzar
·l’année dernière·discuss
Now I understand your question. I can provide and example where a small documentation error may cause patient harm - wrong copy-pasting in a discharge note, copying from other personal medical record and accidentally pulling their diagnosis into the record, and then factoring this diagnosis by the other doctor in their treatment plan
digitaltzar
·l’année dernière·discuss
Not with Epic, we work with Kipu and Athena for now
digitaltzar
·l’année dernière·discuss
Not only US, e.g. the whole clinical world is now moving into AI-powered scribing of doctor visits, it really depends on the deployment model - where are LLMs, how they comply with local regulations. But access of AI to medical charts is a solved questions in general.
digitaltzar
·l’année dernière·discuss
Great questions, indeed this is a kingdom of red tape. We realized that our fist users likely will be small providers but who currently lose $$ on denied/delayed claims. Talked to the first cohort of them - rehabs, allergy clinic, men's health clinic, nursing home, etc. We signed the first rehab just 2 weeks after meeting them because we offered to solve their problem in the same way as their 3rd party billing provider does (manually finds mistakes and circles them back to clinicians) for 2x lower price tag. Then we realize this is common situation for many rehabs.
digitaltzar
·l’année dernière·discuss
For them it's a cost of doing business. Many of those claims will be paid after resubmissions (upon fixes the mistakes if it is possible) but the office operates with higher amount of working capital in this case
digitaltzar
·l’année dernière·discuss
It's a rough journey, we are exploring how MCP makes it easier. Haven't met anyone who say that they like their EHR interface yet.
digitaltzar
·l’année dernière·discuss
Thank you! We are at wrkdn.com

To start, we integrate with Kipu and Athena, just happened that our first clients are rehabs and clinics that use these 2.

Good point on the desire to stay in HR for the review workflow, this is our vision that could be achieved with widgets in specific EHRs but this is down the road. Once mistake is identified, we notify clinical professionals via standard communication like emails and also keep a dashboard with the list of 'topics' inside our portal.
digitaltzar
·l’année dernière·discuss
Thank you!

1. It really depends on the clinical specialty, but the average is around 25% (e.g. 250M claims denied a year because of documentation mistakes). We work with rehabs where this ratio is above 50%

2. It's triple checking -tun the analysis twice and then verify the conclusion, 3+ separate agent calls