martinsmit

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Check out redframes[1] which provides a dplyr-like syntax and is fully interoperable with pandas.

[1]: https://github.com/maxhumber/redframes

martinsmit

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Yes, but no one's made a reverse-mode autodiff system for it yet, so all of the linked examples have hand-written derivatives.

martinsmit

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Similar to Hyukoh's[1], although it is actually multiple documents. P.TM seem to have gone all in, which is neat.

[1]: http://www.hyukoh.com/

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Ironically, sometimes calculating cost-per-use takes more brainpower than it's worth.

Sometimes I get a lot of enjoyment of buying a thing that I know I will love and considering all of the alternatives. Other times, I just defer to what worked in the past.

martinsmit

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Oh trust me, I am. The new code_report solution video on it convinced me to try it.

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The lack of an AD primitive is something I've discussed with the creator of BQN, coming from a JAX world I really miss it and feel that it's such an obvious feature, especially in a language which has a way to turn a tacit function into its AST[1], which has been used for symbolic differentiation[2]. Going from symbolic to reverse-mode AD is not much of a leap and users can define their own primitives with ReBQN[3].

I see what you mean by obfuscation, but I think that it's one of those things that feels really hard and stupid until you start being able to do it really quickly. When you learn a foreign language, you first read letters, then words, then sentences because you become accustomed to larger pieces of the language that you can predict what's coming next without reading it. A similar sort of thing happens with APL/BQN, you read letters (primitives), then you begin to recognise words (small, commonly used groups of primitives), then you see larger patterns which look like magical incantations to an inexperienced user.

These "words" are (typically) tacit phrases, many of them only existing due to specific primitives like swap. Once I used BQN to golf, I started wishing Julia had a swap for operators i.e.

  -(3, 5) = -2
  swap(-)(3, 5) = 2

I won't defend these languages to the death, but they are fun to puzzle your brain with in codegolf. Maybe Dex[4] will go somewhere too.

[1]: https://mlochbaum.github.io/BQN/spec/system.html#operation-p...

[2]: https://saltysylvi.github.io/blog/bqn-macros.html

[3]: https://mlochbaum.github.io/BQN/doc/rebqn.html

[4]: https://github.com/google-research/dex-lang

martinsmit

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Here's a meme that might help: https://www.reddit.com/r/LispMemes/comments/irkm5m/nobody_li...

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I switched permanently from Plots.jl to Makie.jl in order to have backend-agnostic fine-grained control. My publication plots look fantastic and the power given to users is really something. It also has a nicer API than Plots.jl once you get a hang of the figure, axis, plot distinction (plots live inside axes live inside figures) and what goes where.

Unfortunately, as with Plots, the documentation is lacking. The basic tutorial does a good job introducing the aspects of the package at a high level, but the fact that some parts of the documentation uses functions/structs that don't have docstrings in examples makes it very hard to build on the examples in these cases.

I get it, I can do anything with Makie, and most things that I want to do work amazingly. But my code for a single figure can get huge because it's all so low level. See, for example, the Legend documentation[1].

[1]: https://docs.makie.org/stable/examples/blocks/legend/index.h...

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> Tidier

I have not tried it. I like that the project makes broadcasting invisible, I dislike that it tries to completely replicate R's semantics and Tidyverse's syntax. Two examples: firstly, the tuples vs scalars thing doesn't seem very Julia to me. Secondly, I love that DF.jl has :column_name and variable_name as separate syntax. Tidier.jl drops this convention (from what I see in the readme).

> I'm not sure if someone is looking directly at the data.table parts

I believe there was some effort to make an i-j-by syntax in Julia but it fell through or stopped getting worked on. By this syntax I mean something like:

  # An example of using i, j, and by
  @dt flights [
    carrier == "AA",
    (mean(:arr_delay), mean(:dep_delay)),
    by = (:origin, :dest, :month)]

  # An example of expressions in by
  @dt flights [_, nrows, by = (:dep_delay > 0, :arr_delay > 0)]

The idea of ijby (as I understand it) is that it has a consistent structure: row selection/filtering comes before column selection/filtering, and is optionally followed by "by" and then other keyword arguments which augment the data that the core "ij" operations act upon.

data.table also has some nifty syntax like

  data[, x := x + 1] # update in place
  data[, x := x/nrows(.SD), by = y] # .SD =  references data subset currently being worked on

which make it more concise than dplyr.

The conciseness and structure that comes from data.table and its tendency to be much less code than comparable tidyverse transformations through some well-informed choices and reservations of syntax make it nicer for me to use.

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I agree with your conclusion but want to add that switching from Julia may not make sense either.

According to these benchmarks: https://h2oai.github.io/db-benchmark/, DF.jl is the fastest library for some things, data.table for others, polars for others. Which is fastest depends on the query and whether it takes advantage of the features/properties of each.

For what it's worth, data.table is my favourite to use and I believe it has the nicest ergonomics of the three I spoke about.

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BQN[1] has higher order functions. Of the array languages I've used, it's by far my favourite. That said, I mostly solve small problems for fun in them.

[1] https://mlochbaum.github.io/BQN/index.html