EFF's reply to cease-&-desist letter – “Virtual Coachella” parody video(eff.org)

230 pointsby Magicstatic5 tahun yang lalu35 comments

EFF's reply to cease-&-desist letter – “Virtual Coachella” parody video

https://www.eff.org/ar/document/eff-letter-re-virtual-coachella-video

36 comments

rozab5 tahun yang lalu

Here's the actual video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67sfZfreOrU

These guys have a lot of relevant content for HN types, they're really funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o7qjN3KF8U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8OnoxKotPQ

yellowapple5 tahun yang lalu

"Senior Engineer" is what I aspire to be someday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSqexFg74F8

grenoire5 tahun yang lalu

The goddam microservices video is an absolute masterpiece.

prepend5 tahun yang lalu

Great video. I’m going to use this the next time I want to communicate how clever names aren’t as clever as I think they are.

dominotw5 tahun yang lalu

It should be required periodic viewing at most software shops. Def keeps me grounded.

ccvannorman5 tahun yang lalu

it's.. it's literally like they were there, at my 8 months stint as a corporate developer .. I FEEL SEEN!

cbkeller5 tahun yang lalu

I think that video may have legitimately improved my understanding of the potential pitfalls of microservices

beaconstudios5 tahun yang lalu

I knew I recognised the name KRAZAM from somewhere These guys are hilarious.

darioush5 tahun yang lalu

finally, someone funny on the internet. haven't seen that since early 2000's

headbee5 tahun yang lalu

I knew I recognized that name. Glad EFF is sticking up for them, they're not a huge channel.

craftinator5 tahun yang lalu

This brings me back to Snowcrash and Altered Carbon so hard...

seppin5 tahun yang lalu

Topic aside that is an excellent comedy video. If SNL made this as a "digital short" it would be the best thing they'd had done all year.

monksy5 tahun yang lalu

ROBINHOOD IN 2021?!!

Also he forgot .. stocks only go up.

pjfin1235 tahun yang lalu

These are awesome

ineedasername5 tahun yang lalu

Perhaps Coachella believes the parody is too close to the truth, and therefore no longer parody. Looks like the EFF response actually took that into account!

I don't always like the way EFF portrays a given cause in their website/blog postings: They often seem over-simplified and lacking the detail necessary to understand the specifics of the issue in the interest of soliciting donations. Their legal filings, on the other hand, are pretty universally fantastic & skewering of the opposition.

dekhn5 tahun yang lalu

I read a lot of lawyer letters and I notice they often fall within a very specific range of communication styles. It feels very.... assertive, even aggressive, in a way that tries to eliminate lawsuits through psychology rather than facts.

For example the Texas AG wrote this in a letter to Austin when he decided to sue them for overriding the state mask rescinding: https://static.texastribune.org/media/files/087ed6e3bf8591d7...

"We have already taken you to court under similar circumstances. You lost. If you continue to flout the law in this manner, we’ll take you to court again and you will lose again. "

(a part of the lawsuit was just thrown out a few hours ago)

nceqs35 tahun yang lalu

Krazam's MAKRO MICROSOFT EXCEL video is also hilarious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xubbVvKbUfY

ccvannorman5 tahun yang lalu

This was fucking epic and I never would have seen it, for the Streisand effect bringing it to HN. Faith in humanity -- restored.

The youtube link still laughing!! .. the link is IN THE CODIFIED REPLY.. to the cease and desist.. I can't.. this is too funny

monkellipse5 tahun yang lalu

Same energy: https://www.openculture.com/2014/09/monty-python-and-the-hol...

kderbyma5 tahun yang lalu

they sad they didn't think of those ideas first....or they did for this year lol. stupid corporate frisking for comedians. its so pathetic

Magicstatic5 tahun yang lalu

My favorite part of this response is in the footnote on page two, which states:

>If your client sincerely fears that this depiction is too realistic to be perceived as parody, Krazam’s video should be the least of its reputational concerns.

Followed by screenshots from the video showing the DocuSign "Docustage" and Meme Center (Sponsored by GE). At the end of the video itself, the Coachella participant is banned from the event because their "vibes are not compliant with the Coachella policy".

Glad EFF stepped in here to protect small creators such as this one.

monksy5 tahun yang lalu

Something that really blew my mind was that one of my favorite bands: Metallica's comment on how people are to interact with their performances. "Where here to provide the party, if they don't like how we do it, that's on them."

It says a lot on the ego of the producer of the product. [Also that they're treating it as a product.. yes metallica corporate I see you] It completely disreguards of how the individual relates to it and is more focused on control on how they want things.

That whole philosophy you should expect in dictatorships, not in cultures that embrace free expression.

NoOneNew5 tahun yang lalu

To be fair, wouldnt you set ground rules for your guests if you threw a house party? If those guests dont abide by your rules, you're just going to embrace them to keep doing it?

Ragging on them simply because they want to put ground rules down, so everyone can have fun, is pretty immature. Yes concerts need rules. The venue can be held liable for certain things drunk/high dumbasses are going to do. You need to be specific about what rules are so dictatorish or you just sound like a 15 year old pissed off with their parents.

monksy5 tahun yang lalu

I'm not talking about house rules. Having good safety rules is fine at venues and I fully support those.

I believe they were talking about setlists, etc. (They refuse to play some songs live, etc) There are artists that are ridiculously over reaching, like the phone bans, face recognition bans, etc.

DivisionSol5 tahun yang lalu

For context, it looks like this is the original tweet from one of the video creators: https://twitter.com/shivakilaru/status/1372941623609282561

Cease and Desist over Instagram.

dylan6045 tahun yang lalu

Is that even recoginizable in court as legit?

pkilgore5 tahun yang lalu

For most actual legal doctrines possibly classified as standing in for "legit", yes.

Actual notice ("I sent it, you acknowledge you got it") suffices for most notice requirement, regardless of circumstances of sending and receiving.

Some statues/rules are more specific, but it's impossible to answer that without a more specific question.

casefields5 tahun yang lalu

Here's the DNC serving Wikileaks over Twitter: https://twitter.com/ProcessServiceC/status/10279609725044572...

50uth5 tahun yang lalu

How many people are now aware of Krazam LLC that weren't before.

Backfire!

CaliLonghair5 tahun yang lalu

The Streisand Effect strikes again!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

aejnsn5 tahun yang lalu

You beat me to it.

“Woo woo woo woo woo woo woo - Barbra Streisand.”

thaumasiotes5 tahun yang lalu

Eh, I don't really see that Coachella cares one way or the other if people are aware of Krazam LLC.

kreeben5 tahun yang lalu

They cared enough to send a cease & desist letter.

curryst5 tahun yang lalu

They don't care about Krazam, but they want this particular video to go away. People can be fickle about their music and the resulting concerts. People tend to view corporations and music (really all art) as orthogonal concepts. Art can only be tainted by corporations, therefor any kind of corporate music festival can only be subpar.

I suspect they know the accusations are fair, but were hoping nobody would call them out for it.

baobabKoodaa5 tahun yang lalu

> They don't care about Krazam, but they want this particular video to go away.

And how did that work out?

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