Hospitals Often Charge Uninsured People the Highest Prices, New Data Show(wsj.com)
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Hospitals Often Charge Uninsured People the Highest Prices, New Data Show
https://www.wsj.com/articles/hospitals-often-charge-uninsured-people-the-highest-prices-new-data-show-11625584448
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But this does not have to be the case. For example, the Amish in PA & NY get great prices on their healthcare from major hospitals, because their communities ban together and negotiate lower prices.
This is by design. Insurance companies want to negotiate a price. If uninsured people paid less than insurance companies, these companies didn't really negotiate a better price.
True, but the difference is outrageous:
> The price billed to Mr. Macias was roughly three times the best deal negotiated by an insurance company.
> The price billed to Mr. Macias was roughly three times the best deal negotiated by an insurance company.
There is also the fact that the uninsured are less likely to pay, so they jack up their prices again to account for that. It’s all really just lots of insanity.
“Most people without health insurance coverage had a high school education or less. People who did not complete high school made up a much larger part of the uninsured population (26.9 percent) than the overall population (11.8 percent).
The uninsured population was also disproportionately more likely to live in poverty. About 1 in 3 uninsured workers were in service occupations, compared with about 1 in 5 workers in the U.S. overall.”
https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2018/09/who-are-the-u...
The uninsured population was also disproportionately more likely to live in poverty. About 1 in 3 uninsured workers were in service occupations, compared with about 1 in 5 workers in the U.S. overall.”
https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2018/09/who-are-the-u...
They know they won't pay anyway, so it allows them a bigger write-off of uncollectible billings?
Hospitals and doctors do this on purpose. They charge ridiculously high rates so they can always get the absolute maximum from any given insurance company. They have to charge an initial rate higher than any insurance will possibly pay so they can max-out their profit.
If you happen to not have insurance, well they bill the same stupid-high rate and you have no negotiation power like an insurance company does.
I've seen this myself. Just walking in to an ER can be $5k even when they don't do anything at all. God help you if you actually need care like an x-ray, CT/MRI, bandages, overnight+ stay. I had a CT done for broken ribs and it was $15k for the scan all by itself, plus the $5k ER "facilities" charge, plus all the various doctors each had their own charge (about $2k for each doctor). Healthcare in the US is totally borked.
Most people don't really understand how bad it is because they've never been without corporate insurance (maybe self-employed or other reasons).
If you happen to not have insurance, well they bill the same stupid-high rate and you have no negotiation power like an insurance company does.
I've seen this myself. Just walking in to an ER can be $5k even when they don't do anything at all. God help you if you actually need care like an x-ray, CT/MRI, bandages, overnight+ stay. I had a CT done for broken ribs and it was $15k for the scan all by itself, plus the $5k ER "facilities" charge, plus all the various doctors each had their own charge (about $2k for each doctor). Healthcare in the US is totally borked.
Most people don't really understand how bad it is because they've never been without corporate insurance (maybe self-employed or other reasons).