I agree that nobody cares enough. When was the last time you read anything good or promising about any of these sites - bot related or otherwise? but they persist because of a snowball of your network using it and then we feel fomo.
The only way to win is not to play. even if your kid's soccer team and your church and your suburb's news (and billions of bots) are all only on fb or whatever, stop their momentum and get off the ride, but obviously that isnt happening so the snowball continues to roll with the garbage in it and nobody cares and that's just how it is now.
My linux gaming experience has left me with a wierd irony...
I have been stealing windows for the last 25 years and never ever felt like i owed M$ a cent. Now after totally switching to free stuff i suddenly feel (not in a bad way at all) a kind of debt to open source developers for just making cool stuff and putting it out there for me to use and play with and i'm not doing a crime anymore!
Not a programmer (accountant here) and thanks to Github copilot in VSCode, I was able to make the app I couldn't find. It's been a super fun hobby over the last 6 or 7 months, especially hosting it myself and my only cost now is Apple's recurring 99 USD in case i want to ship an update later, so I can keep it up for free into the future.
95% of the app is boilerplate API and DB stuff but I stood 0 chance of making this without the LLM handling syntax and the volume of code.
It's Plantshare and it helps people share and find plants, because if you do gardening, your plants are likely making more free plants all the time. which you can now share and find on this app. Saw an app for sharing tools in your neighborhood and I thought that was really cool, so I did this but for giving plants/seeds/cuttings away.
This is coming across as the "hobby police" here telling everyone what they can and can't do... I'm sure it wasn't meant that way but it reads that way.
The airplane company wont let you vibe code their systems anyway, and rightly so. the rest of us can just do whatever we like.
I read this as the cost per unit of video produced. Of course it costs a lot to build power plants but they will produce exponentially more videos, exponentially faster and it's all about scale.
Edit... And the tech companies are certainly not paying the environmental costs now are they?
Recently launched my free app for gardeners to share plants with each other, Plantshare.
Now I'm working on a few changes to the app, most notable is moving any plants marked as 'for sale' out from the main section because it turns out people are more greedy than I anticipated and it's getting in the way of sharing the free stuff, cuttings etc.
There's also some demand for a web front end so I might work on that next. (currently only android and ios)
I had an initial boom of downloads in South Africa but lately most new downloads are in USA.
I love this "local first" focus, which for me translates into "relevant first". My app Plantshare (posted about it in this HN post) is not very useful if you're the only user for 40km around, but I've seen local pockets of signups that gain momentum and are then useful in that locality and the users make local connections.
I think the biggest hurdle for this would be to gain traffic in place of an existing entrenched local Facebook group or similar.
I've been working on Plantshare, a free app that aims to help gardeners share plants with other local gardeners. If you do gardening, it's likely that your plants are making more plants all by themselves; use this app to share them and see what others near you are sharing. I basically made the app that I couldn't find.
Android and iOS are in a working beta, might do a web front end eventually too.
I'm not a professional at any of this (accounting day job) and there has been a lot of learning but in the end, what a trip, I made a software!
I've had a ton of help to bring it to life from a friend who is an actual professional at the back-end stuff (thanks Balthromaw) and copilot too.
That's like asking how do you convince people you dug a hole without using a shovel... who cares what tools were used unless you're in some kind of game with such rules. the shovel is just a tool and it didn't dig the hole, you did.
Lots of ideas are new to the person coming up with them, only to find out that it was invented 50 years ago, doesn't mean you cheated. AI or not, just own it.
When instructing it to execute the plan, i would even have it only execute step 1, then you review. then step 2, review and so on. this prevents it from going down a rabbit hole and you can adjust the plan's steps or change course more easily.
Thank you for sharing this, now I feel less dumb.
Recently I had the pain of publishing my app (Flutter/Dart) on the apple Appstore, admittedly, my first experience using a mac in the last 30 years so I don't speak mac at all, but like, I know computers right?... famous last words.
I thought I was "holding it wrong"... like really badly wrong! and all I was trying to do was clone my repo and compile it for the store, that's it. took me nights and nights to get over each subsequent hurdle and false peak and missing import and then at the end, oh please upgrade and start again.
Thank goodness I only need it for that 1 step and I can do everything else on computers and software that is normal for me. As a first time app maker, I've had a super experience with Flutter in VScode.
Even though I'm interested to know apple's reasons for taking my 99 USD and then thinking it's okay to just give my app the middle finger :/