gifnamething·4 tahun yang lalu·discussThis isn't a constructive way of arguing, it's an irrefutable strawman
gifnamething·4 tahun yang lalu·discussThen we lose the conceit that we're doing it for the kids' benefit.
gifnamething·5 tahun yang lalu·discuss>I knew that I didn't get to keep any upsideThat does partially answer what is not in the blue box.