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I still always turn on the bottom 3 button on Android phones. Just easier than remembering gestures.

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Morther drinks = goes to baby in utherus

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Not here in Sweden. Don't equate London/UK to Europe. Typical American.

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Show on the doll where MS hurt you.

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Agreed and also a very fristrating thread to read. Seems like most HN people are Silicon Valley or startups?

It goes like this:

- Company is has IT in the 90s and 2000s. They have computers and a LAN and WAN. They use Windows. To manage Windows, Active Directory is needed/used. So Windows Server is also used. For email, the use Exchange. There is just no alternative because you want users to use the same account in the AD.

- Company starts virtualizing their DC with VMWARE later on, but stuff is still on-prem.

- In 2010 Office 365 comes out. Makes sense to have Office 365 host your email and Office as you are already on on-prem Exchange. So they migrate over the emails.

- When Azure comes out, it makes sense to move to that too. Your IT admins already know Microsoft. And you can use your Windows Server licenses etc.

Now if you are starting a brand new company in 2020, sure, use gsuite, notion or something else.

But its gonna be hard to switch over.

And this is not Tech debt. The stack actually works really well.

The only thing is that Teams is pretty heavy as a client, but its amazing in how you can just use Teams for an entire day as its integrated with SharePoint and OneDrive so all documents etc are there.

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Ah yes, IT is big dumb dumb I forgor. durrrr

If you want to make the equivalent of "You are stupid" comment, go back to /g/

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This. It is truly amazing how many in this thread have 0 clue about MS products. I guess GSuite is amazing if you are a 2 person company. Everything above that is on the Office 365 train.

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Email is pretty important. You really think a company would pay for Office suite, Notion and Gsuite? You are insane.

And CAL is not used for Office 365 sweeite

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Yes it read really weird to me. Someone who only uses Macs, iphones and only worked at startups?

Every company I worked for has been using Windows. From POS terminals to C# dev machines.

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Older book but

Show Stopper!: The Breakneck Race to Create Windows NT and the Next Generation at Microsoft Hardcover by G. Pascal Zachary

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Sounds awful

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>GPC can deny a user the ability to do something with their computer that other users can do.

Yes, this is for security and management. Pretty important stuff. We don't just set GPOs to be dicks.

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No, because Office 365 is also the email hosting , MS Teams , Windows 10 enterprise license and management of the computer with Intune.

So you still need Office 365 for each user.

And then, why pay for 2 tools when you can pay for 1.

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> Notion: Office 365 for people below age 35. At a minimum, Office should aspire to the ease of use that Google Docs has (Office 365 for people below age 45)

What? Employees use what the company bought. Every company I have worked for has used Office 365. Teams is fine, but Discord is the best. Yes Slack sucks too compared to Discord.

Office 365 now has all the collaboration features of Google Docs and has had for some time.

Trust in MS is also huge in enterprise. Nothing can also touch the management of computers and servers with AD/GPO or Intune. MacOS only has janky MDMs and Chromebooks are not used in real jobs.

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"told to"

Why do they not have some MDM like InTune or Knox and have the apps they need pre-installed and the phone locked down to prevent any other apps from being installed?

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