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1 points·by sneek_·3 tahun yang lalu·0 comments

Launch HN: Payload (YC S22) – Headless CMS for Developers

242 points·by sneek_·4 tahun yang lalu·137 comments

Dev-first headless CMS Payload is now completely free and open-source

payloadcms.com
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sneek_
·2 tahun yang lalu·discuss
WP made me want to pull my hair out
sneek_
·2 tahun yang lalu·discuss
Check out Payload - fully OSS, modeled after the … few good parts of WP

https://payloadcms.com

I built it because I was in the same situation as you.
sneek_
·2 tahun yang lalu·discuss
now that we're built on Next.js (3.0 beta), we now use Next.js as an optional head

you can still use Payload headless of course with any frontend but out of the box you have everything you need. it's pretty nifty
sneek_
·2 tahun yang lalu·discuss
100%. We are actually working on a little "badge" style thing. Needed bad.
sneek_
·2 tahun yang lalu·discuss
Hmm, one clarification - there is no enterprise Payload version. All of our enterprise features are just plugins - which anyone could build.

In this way, would you consider WordPress to be open-core as well, considering the amount of paid plugins there are available?
sneek_
·2 tahun yang lalu·discuss
Fair. Good feedback. For what it's worth, we are actively looking at our licensing model trying to make it easier for situations exactly like yours.

Might have some updates for you soon.
sneek_
·2 tahun yang lalu·discuss
Happy to hear this! Thank you for chiming in here. Hope to see you around the community.
sneek_
·2 tahun yang lalu·discuss
Hey! Would love to hear more about this.

Performance problems are usually something related to maybe missing indexes in your database for fields that you query on often, or similar. Payload itself is super thin. Can you give me an example of where you're seeing slowdowns? Maybe I can point you in the right direction.

Also I would love to hear about where Payload is not flexible enough. Extensibility is one of our priorities so if there is something you'd like to accomplish, but can't, I will see what I can do about it!
sneek_
·2 tahun yang lalu·discuss
Payload has a form builder plugin - https://payloadcms.com/docs/plugins/form-builder#form-builde...

have you seen that?
sneek_
·2 tahun yang lalu·discuss
Hey there - small to medium orgs can use one of the available community, open source SSO plugins, with the only caveat that they are not officially supported by Payload. Or you could build your own!

Question - does the word "enterprise" make you think that the amount we charge would make it unfeasible for your org to pay to use Payload?

I don't think it's ideal that we hide all our "premium" features behind the word "enterprise" and have been thinking of alternative words / messaging to describe that.
sneek_
·2 tahun yang lalu·discuss
I think server components have been very badly marketed. They're totally opt-in, so I don't see how this would make React instantly a terrible framework. I for one think they represent a lot of value.

If you don't use them, then React is quite literally no different to you.
sneek_
·2 tahun yang lalu·discuss
Hey! I'm CEO of Payload and want to make sure we resolve any bugs you found. Pretty much the whole team is focused on closing issues right now as we work toward 3.0 stable so depending on when you were trying out Payload, I'd imagine you might see lots of the bugs you faced as already resolved.

Keystone would be my other vote though, if I were looking for a CMS and Payload didn't exist. I think that is a solid crew.
sneek_
·3 tahun yang lalu·discuss
We have a package that allows you to deploy Payload in a NextJS app serverlessly, and it works great. I actually tried bundling as one endpoint early on while exploring with the NextJS approach and it seemed to work perfectly. But honestly I can’t remember the pros and cons.

I’d say give it a shot, and if you need anything, let us know!
sneek_
·3 tahun yang lalu·discuss
Thank you! That’s one of my favorite features too. Pretty straightforward to implement too. We’ve got some examples in the docs and the repo if you’re interested.
sneek_
·3 tahun yang lalu·discuss
Honestly you nailed the reason why Payload exists. Both the editor AND developer experience are important and when you have both, you end up with a better project.

If you need anything as you build, let us know and we will make it happen! Exciting stuff.
sneek_
·3 tahun yang lalu·discuss
Awesome to hear! Thank you for your comments!
sneek_
·3 tahun yang lalu·discuss
Hey Sanju - would love to know what you think about Payload (https://payloadcms.com).

We were in YC S22 and we've done a lot of what you've mentioned. Our ambitions are the same as yours. Maybe we could collaborate?
sneek_
·3 tahun yang lalu·discuss
Hey there - I'm CEO of Payload (YC S22) [1] and you're speaking my language.

We're an open-source CMS where you completely own your database. Right now we're MongoDB-only, but we are actively working on adding Postgres support and that should be done VERY soon.

[1] https://payloadcms.com/
sneek_
·3 tahun yang lalu·discuss
Don't worry, I've been a designer for 15 years and I know intimately that I can't please everyone.

It's hard to get under my skin. That's actually I think what your takeaway should be here - - you can't please everyone, but you should take all feedback as valid and try and deliver something that solves for your problem the most widely.

If someone feels something, then they felt it. Including your reaction to my site, and the others' reactions to your site.
sneek_
·3 tahun yang lalu·discuss
Hi, I made the Payload site

Apparently it triggers you. I don't claim that it's perfect by any means (actually I think some of what you're saying is right).