Man plays guitar as doctors operate on his brain(timesofindia.indiatimes.com)
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Man plays guitar as doctors operate on his brain
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/bengaluru-man-plays-guitar-as-docs-operate-on-his-brain/articleshow/59674653.cms?
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>they inadvertently affected a part of the brain that is responsible for 'self-control, judgement' and he ended up becoming a child porn addict, which got him arrested and convicted
This really highlights the absurdity of a justice system centered around "punishing bad people" rather than "helping sick people". I suppose the surgeons were charged as accessories?
Perhaps, rather than a "justice" system, we need a "social health" system. There are many injustices that lead to crime. Focusing only on the criminal is unjust.
This really highlights the absurdity of a justice system centered around "punishing bad people" rather than "helping sick people". I suppose the surgeons were charged as accessories?
Perhaps, rather than a "justice" system, we need a "social health" system. There are many injustices that lead to crime. Focusing only on the criminal is unjust.
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That's right - it was on the RadioLab podcast. I thought he was "listening" to music during the operation, and told the doctors to stop if his interpretation of the melody turned to white noise. The unsettling gist of the main story was the relationship between culpability and brain function. Worth a listen.
ah yes, that's it radiolab! good pull. I may have gotten a few of the musical details off, sorry!
As for the main topic of the story of how brain affects culpability is an extremely interesting/debatable point. However, the even stronger point being made by one of the guests that free will itself is just a biological function was hard for me to swallow.
As jjw1414 says, unsettling would be a mild description of some of the implications being made by the researcher on the piece.
As for the main topic of the story of how brain affects culpability is an extremely interesting/debatable point. However, the even stronger point being made by one of the guests that free will itself is just a biological function was hard for me to swallow.
As jjw1414 says, unsettling would be a mild description of some of the implications being made by the researcher on the piece.
Related: Christian Muenzner is an extreme metal guitarist who was diagnosed with focal dystonia in his left hand. He was part of Obscura, one of my favorite metal bands ever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Munzner#Focal_Dyston...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAPpXcvGpps
Listen to this from about 4:00 onwards, and tell me if you'd ordinarily be able to guess that the sounds you hear at 4:20 or so came out of a guitar. I wouldn't, at least not at once.
After the diagnosis, he was faced with a, uh, unreliable left hand. There was nothing to do but take his right-hand "tapping" abilities to insane levels. :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Munzner#Focal_Dyston...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAPpXcvGpps
Listen to this from about 4:00 onwards, and tell me if you'd ordinarily be able to guess that the sounds you hear at 4:20 or so came out of a guitar. I wouldn't, at least not at once.
After the diagnosis, he was faced with a, uh, unreliable left hand. There was nothing to do but take his right-hand "tapping" abilities to insane levels. :)
Great to see a fellow tech death/extreme metal lover here. Obscura, Necrophagist, and played with Ron Jarzombek. That's some history right there.
Tom Fountainhead (ex-Obscura) recently published a cover of a track off Akroasis. Fretless guitar tapping everywhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_AXZRGVrWk
Tom Fountainhead (ex-Obscura) recently published a cover of a track off Akroasis. Fretless guitar tapping everywhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_AXZRGVrWk
Hey! Tech-death isn't what I listen to nowadays, mostly, but it's where I started from. I learned to appreciate complexity in music from there, and branched out to other things. Still do enjoy the occasional Gorguts listen, though.
(Your link is excellent.)
(Your link is excellent.)
See Rosemary Kennedy's brain lobotomy (she was the sister of President John F. Kennedy). She was awake and speaking during her brain operation, so doctor could know if he was messing with any important area. "When she began to become incoherent, they stopped."
But of course it was too late. She became mentally impaired for the rest of her life. She was lobotomized because her father though it would improve her teenager behavior problems.
The brain itself doesn't have Nociceptors (pain sensory neurons), so there is no pain below the skin and meninges area.
> The brain itself doesn't have Nociceptors (pain sensory neurons), so there is no pain below the skin and meninges area.
Isn't there even pain (during an operation) in the part of the brain that processes pain?
And how about emotions?
Isn't there even pain (during an operation) in the part of the brain that processes pain?
And how about emotions?
If you go that deep, you will hit other parts first. Damage to amygdala cam go either way.
Focal dystonia is pretty weird. Different body parts are mapped to different areas of the brain, but "overtraining" certain movements (like this guitarist) can cause that area to spill over into adjacent areas. Resulting in involuntary, task-specific, movements.
Pulled right out of a Grey's Anatomy episode (or vice versa is more likely):
http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/wilmer-valderrama-says-good-day...
http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/wilmer-valderrama-says-good-day...
I'm not sure whether or not I believe this actually happened...
This is not at all uncommon:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2...
https://www.bustle.com/articles/35791-watch-inspiring-violin...
I've watched a few myself in person. Sometimes it's crucial to monitor preservation of function -- this is how it's done. Awake brain surgery isn't as crazy as it may seem.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2...
https://www.bustle.com/articles/35791-watch-inspiring-violin...
I've watched a few myself in person. Sometimes it's crucial to monitor preservation of function -- this is how it's done. Awake brain surgery isn't as crazy as it may seem.
Nice username... :)
It's totally logical, but wildly scary sounding. Is there any sort of anesthesia that is delivered which... I don't know... changes your perception as the patient to not think about the fact someone is poking your brain?
Clearly they can eliminate the local feeling of the surgery, but how do you stop people from freakinggggggg out that it's happening? :P
It's totally logical, but wildly scary sounding. Is there any sort of anesthesia that is delivered which... I don't know... changes your perception as the patient to not think about the fact someone is poking your brain?
Clearly they can eliminate the local feeling of the surgery, but how do you stop people from freakinggggggg out that it's happening? :P
Lots of talking and mental preparation beforehand. My father had surgery for glioblastoma (brain cancer), he had to stay awake and count so the surgeon knew he didn't remove anything important.
>Clearly they can eliminate the local feeling of the surgery
They don't really do this, your brain has no pain receptors so you can't feel what they are doing by default. I do not think they would use any sort of drug to stop people from freaking out as well, because they would imply that the drug is messing with your brain chemistry in some way which can cloud any problems they are trying to notice.
The whole idea behind the awake brain surgery is to quickly notice any changes in cognitive function from the person being operated on.
They don't really do this, your brain has no pain receptors so you can't feel what they are doing by default. I do not think they would use any sort of drug to stop people from freaking out as well, because they would imply that the drug is messing with your brain chemistry in some way which can cloud any problems they are trying to notice.
The whole idea behind the awake brain surgery is to quickly notice any changes in cognitive function from the person being operated on.
I sure hope they apply some local anesthesia so you don't have to feel them saw open your skull. Of course the brain itself doesn't have pain receptors, but the surrounding skin does.
A tremendous amount of trust is certainly involved. The brain itself doesn't actually have any pain receptors!
It makes me sad my comment was downvoted, I approach new claims with skepticism (like a good scientist does).
But thanks for the links! Very interesting!
But thanks for the links! Very interesting!
It's not exactly the first time... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjX6ErmKY14
Could you explain why you wouldn't believe this?
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So rather than take that risk blindly, they had him play a guitar while they were doing surgery on his brain! And if at any point, while they were operating, if his playing ability was affected they would stop operating in that region of the brain.
The kicker was that the side effect of the surgery ( his second ), was that they inadvertently affected a part of the brain that is responsible for 'self-control, judgement' and he ended up becoming a child porn addict, which got him arrested and convicted.
There's about 5 different unbelievable parts to this story, worth a listen if you can find it.
The Human Brain.. continually amazed at how much we still don't know about this part of our anatomy.