Save Your Sanity, Downgrade Your Life(nytimes.com)
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Save Your Sanity, Downgrade Your Life
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/18/opinion/sunday/technology-downgrade-sanity.html?mtrref=undefined&gwh=F18F8318D2C6504BDF6897B6951B0F72&gwt=pay&assetType=opinion
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A curious first example. I too have found that my teeth get and stay cleaner using an electric toothbrush. While many technological wonders infiltrating our lives today are at best conveniences -- and often just distractions -- why not embrace one that genuinely improves our physical well-being, encumbered with (as far as I know) nothing in the way of undesirable side-effects?
The electric toothbrush is one of those "holy crap how did I live without this?!" things for me. First time I used it my teeth felt as if I'd had a professional cleaning. No amount of manual brushing gets them as clean as even a lazy, quick pass with the electric. How manual toothbrushes are still A Thing outside of camping supply stores baffles me, now that I know how good electric toothbrushes are.
I had the same reaction to the toothbrush example, and feel the same way about electric toothbrushes. More than anecdotes, there are studies that demonstrate their efficacy. The criteria the author chooses for what gets downgraded weren't clearly enumerated, but I got the impression that it was because something was 'distracting.' I don't find my electric toothbrush to be a distraction any more than a manual. It seemed a bit arbitrary, like, I downgraded my car to this horse drawn carriage.
Batteries last a surprising long time on electric toothbrushes, mine claims it lasts two full weeks on a full charge. I've personally tested it successfully on a week and a half trip. You should have no problem bringing it camping provided your trip lasts less than a couple weeks. I never bring the charger with me when I go anywhere.
(My old electric toothbrush cost $10 about 10 years ago and used AA batteries instead of a wall charger. A couple AAs lasted quite a long time, probably close to 6 months, IIRC. So that one would last you the entire length of the appalachian trail.)
(My old electric toothbrush cost $10 about 10 years ago and used AA batteries instead of a wall charger. A couple AAs lasted quite a long time, probably close to 6 months, IIRC. So that one would last you the entire length of the appalachian trail.)
If you think an electric toothbrush was a huge leap in oral health, you should try a water flosser. I used to have some pretty bad gum issues, and still would if I didn't use my water flosser. It's like a little power washer for your mouth! I use it mostly around the gum line and between the teeth.
My only complaint (well, more like my wife's) is that it spews little pieces of toothpaste all over my mirror sometimes.
Probably because you take it out of your mouth while it is still on. There is an easy solution. (and you can turn it back on when you put it under the water.)
I just bought one from amazon that hooks up to my shower head, I use it while I shower and it never runs out of water
I'm guessing you are referring to a waterpik rather than a toothbrush. Cool idea. Looking on amazon now...
I always bring those "disposable" vibrating toothbrushes camping. The battery lasts longer than the brush does.
I always have a "sealed" manual toothbrush ready for when I'm traveling somewhere, especially by bike you cannot justify the weight of an electric toothbrush.
Any specific brand of an electric toothbrush you recommend?
I think I just have whatever Sweethome recommended last year. One of the lower-end models—only useful thing, really, is a timer-vibration to tell you to switch quarters or quit, and that's the only extra feature mine has. You don't need any of the Bluetooth (!?) ones or whatever. Pretty sure it's Oral B, might be the Pro 1000.
One of the top five best tech gadgets I've bought in my entire life was my electronic toothbrush. It's like going for a dentist cleaning everyday! Seriously, it rocks.
Try an ultrasonic toothbrush (a real one operating in MHz) and you are going to ditch your dentist. Since I bought it three years ago I haven't had a single decay; even some bad job on root canal treatment and resulting inflammation gets down to acceptable levels after a week or so of use in my case.
Care to share a good brand?
Megasonex comes to mind; there was also some cheap one Ultrasonex Plus First (though seems to be phased out) and the new one is not ultrasonic at all. Also, if you want to have fresh breath (most people won't tell you about it but will actively try to avoid you), consider using one of those portable electric pulsating water flossers (you'd be surprised how much smelly "junk" is in the interdental space) and tongue cleaner once or twice a day - in a few weeks your breath should be fantastic unless you suffer from some other illness.
Could you please share more details?
Seriously it makes me feel like I've taken a disc sander to them, in a good way. So smooth.
Actually, a disc sander isn't the most enticing thing to compare something that goes on your teeth.
Which ... sort of leads into the question of whether tooth brushing can damage tooth enamel. Can it?
Which ... sort of leads into the question of whether tooth brushing can damage tooth enamel. Can it?
I would think any dentist would say no. Enamel is REALLY hard, but is damaged by the stuff that tooth brushes remove.
Which electric toothbrush?
I've had both Sonicare and Oral-B, and I prefer Sonicare, especially when I replace the heads a little bit sooner than recommended. (I loved them both though)
I've had both Sonicare and Oral-B, and I prefer Sonicare, especially when I replace the heads a little bit sooner than recommended. (I loved them both though)
Some of them operate in the ultrasonic region which, according to my dentist, means they can get a lot more cleaning done.
This is why I'm part of Reddit's Buyitforlife cult.
My maternal grandparents lived well into the age of microwave ovens and cable TV, yet they never owned or subscribed to either. Nothing could convince them they were missing anything worthwhile. It made no sense at all to me.
Now, I sort of understand. I'm not rabidly anti-technology, but I avoid a lot of the fashionable latest stuff like Facebook, smart watches, fitbits, Twitter, Spotify, etc.
It's hard to explain to friends who ask why. It's basically a matter of mental bandwidth. It's not infinite. Every thing that demands a piece of my attention must take that attention away from something else. And I guess these things are not worth that cost to me. I don't judge people who think otherwise; that's just what works best for me personally.
Now, I sort of understand. I'm not rabidly anti-technology, but I avoid a lot of the fashionable latest stuff like Facebook, smart watches, fitbits, Twitter, Spotify, etc.
It's hard to explain to friends who ask why. It's basically a matter of mental bandwidth. It's not infinite. Every thing that demands a piece of my attention must take that attention away from something else. And I guess these things are not worth that cost to me. I don't judge people who think otherwise; that's just what works best for me personally.
If you want to save mental bandwidth, I really recommend you reconsider not using Spotify.
Spotify actually frees me from the "what music do I hear in the background" question, manually rearranging playlists, acquiring music and, worst of all, manually keeping my collection tagged. Before I had Spotify, I wasted evenings tagging everything with Picard...
With Spotify, you just give it a starting point, start "song radio" and it'll keep playing and choosing next tracks. You can easily and very comfortably get through the day with only a play/pause hotkey and a next track hotkey. As a bonus, it just carries over between work, phone and home.
Spotify actually frees me from the "what music do I hear in the background" question, manually rearranging playlists, acquiring music and, worst of all, manually keeping my collection tagged. Before I had Spotify, I wasted evenings tagging everything with Picard...
With Spotify, you just give it a starting point, start "song radio" and it'll keep playing and choosing next tracks. You can easily and very comfortably get through the day with only a play/pause hotkey and a next track hotkey. As a bonus, it just carries over between work, phone and home.
That's funny. I have neither a microwave, nor cable TV. I'm currently looking for a used microwave, but I have no desire whatsoever to get cable TV. My phone is currently 3 years old, and I don't really have a ton of gadgets beyond said phone and a laptop.
> The kids themselves don’t get phones at all. When my 12-year-old daughter walks home from school without one, I intentionally have no idea where she is, just like nobody knew where kids were when I was growing up. How rare it is these days not to be able to know something.
Brilliant, but she's 12. There's an astounding difference between "knowing where my daughter is" and "enabling my daughter to call for help (e.g., 911) if she's in an emergency." You don't have to be a helicopter parent and track her location to give her the ability to have a tangible, modern benefit of a phone: the ability to immediately have police or paramedics if she needs them.
Brilliant, but she's 12. There's an astounding difference between "knowing where my daughter is" and "enabling my daughter to call for help (e.g., 911) if she's in an emergency." You don't have to be a helicopter parent and track her location to give her the ability to have a tangible, modern benefit of a phone: the ability to immediately have police or paramedics if she needs them.
As incredible as it sounds, when I was 12 I did not have "the ability to immediately have police or paramedics" and by some great miracle, I seem to have survived into my 40s! And the country was actually a much more dangerous place then than it is now, given violent crime statistics. I would leave my house at the crack of dawn, ride my bicycle for miles, and return home for lunch and then when it got dark. All without a mobile phone. I know, totally insane, right?
Literally survivorship bias.
True, however, I think survivorship bias tends to imply that a relatively small number of the elements pass through the system, thereby making the data gained from said elements biased. It's like looking at only elements that end up 3 standard deviations higher, and then trying to make remarks on the whole system from there. In this case, the vast majority of children will never ever be harmed walking home from school to the point of death, the mean of the normal distribution can be taken to represent the system accurately. I don't know my logical fallacies enough to name this one, but I think you have this inverted.
>There's an astounding difference between "knowing where my daughter is" and "enabling my daughter to call for help (e.g., 911) if she's in an emergency."
And why is that important, since we've managed to survive without that capability for several tens of thousands of years in much worse circumstances than a modern city?
And why is that important, since we've managed to survive without that capability for several tens of thousands of years in much worse circumstances than a modern city?
An interesting idea a roommate thought up:
So 100 years ago, a guy kidnapping your daughter (just an example of anything that could only be resolved by you knowing where you daughter was) isn't a serious worry, since that's a 0.01% risk as opposed to the 2% risk your daughter gets sick with whatever and dies.
Now, it's that same 0.01% risk compared to a 0.00003% risk thanks to advancements in modern medicine, so we worry about it much more.
So 100 years ago, a guy kidnapping your daughter (just an example of anything that could only be resolved by you knowing where you daughter was) isn't a serious worry, since that's a 0.01% risk as opposed to the 2% risk your daughter gets sick with whatever and dies.
Now, it's that same 0.01% risk compared to a 0.00003% risk thanks to advancements in modern medicine, so we worry about it much more.
Because we are programmed to do everything to make sure we survive and our children survive. Even when the threat level is super low it's hard to lose the instinct. Hence why terrorism scares people who then go and buy a lottery ticket. We're bad at probability!
>Because we are programmed to do everything to make sure we survive and our children survive.
Makes sense at first, but I don't think we are. I see other cultures (including western ones), and even the US at 70s and earlier, that don't do the same "everything" at all.
I think what we are, in some countries, is conditioned by hysterical media and hysterical society, to over-protect our children to the point of social pathology.
Makes sense at first, but I don't think we are. I see other cultures (including western ones), and even the US at 70s and earlier, that don't do the same "everything" at all.
I think what we are, in some countries, is conditioned by hysterical media and hysterical society, to over-protect our children to the point of social pathology.
A $10 dumb phone without any service allows for 911 calls.
That just seems silly. Not everything needs 911, and payphones aren't all that common anymore. Not to mention the missed opportunity to teach about responsible use... and the opportunity to enjoy the convenience as parents. For example, a kid calling home to let them know when a school event is over, especially if the child can leave early.
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As a Sabbath observant Jew, I can relate to this article. I'm thankful for having one day a week without technology. It means that for 52 days a year, I get to not worry about checking my email; Spend time with friends and family in person, and have sit down meals where no one dares check their phone[1]. And it's great. But it really only works because of the communal aspects of it: Other members of my community are doing the same thing. Still, I recommend that everyone cut out some time during the year (maybe during a week of vacation) where they "cut the cord". You don't have to go all in. For example, maybe keep your cellphone with you, but disconnect your email account and don't send texts.
1[] We often have people over for Friday night dinners who aren't Sabbath observant. If someone pulls out their phone, I'll try to politely ask them to go to a different room if they want to use it or otherwise put it away.
1[] We often have people over for Friday night dinners who aren't Sabbath observant. If someone pulls out their phone, I'll try to politely ask them to go to a different room if they want to use it or otherwise put it away.
So using technology means not seeing your friends and family?
Is being a member of a religious society the only way? I don't think so. I am quite successful in taming my tech in a very rigorous manner and I am indeed less stressed person for it.
Is being a member of a religious society the only way? I don't think so. I am quite successful in taming my tech in a very rigorous manner and I am indeed less stressed person for it.
So using technology means not seeing your friends and family?
Is being a member of a religious society the only way?
> But a common problem I see is that people are glued to their phones/email, even when they are with family or friends.
When me and my wife are outside seeing other people, we treat people being glued to their smartphone despite our presence as them being not interested in our company, and we never invite them to dinner again. Truthfully, if people can't practice some self-discipline, that's ultimately their problem, not ours.
IMO mandating your family to not use technology at dinner won't educate them; it will make a part of them better at hiding it, or if that fails, they'll excuse themselves from the dinner early. As mentioned in another comment of mine, sometimes it helps with having topics to talk about: "Ive read today that.." and before you know it, one hour is gone. It can be pretty beneficial if used in moderation. I do see your point though -- using things in moderation is not the strength of the most Homo Sapiens.
However, forcing never educates anyone.
> But I think that anyone, religious or not, can benefit from being "off the grid" once in a while.
I fully agree and to me that's an undeniable fact, and something that helps mental health a lot as well.
But, as a very busy man in his most active and productive years (I am 37 now and I estimate I'll be very active at least until 50), I found that taming my tech to not spam me and to only use it for things I really need (even though I am a programmer and we are known to get addicted easily) has been the second best thing.
Unlocking your phone and just poking at it is something I don't do for a long time and it helped me a lot. However, I do read Wikipedia and other focused articles regularly and I only extract educational value out of it.
When me and my wife are outside seeing other people, we treat people being glued to their smartphone despite our presence as them being not interested in our company, and we never invite them to dinner again. Truthfully, if people can't practice some self-discipline, that's ultimately their problem, not ours.
IMO mandating your family to not use technology at dinner won't educate them; it will make a part of them better at hiding it, or if that fails, they'll excuse themselves from the dinner early. As mentioned in another comment of mine, sometimes it helps with having topics to talk about: "Ive read today that.." and before you know it, one hour is gone. It can be pretty beneficial if used in moderation. I do see your point though -- using things in moderation is not the strength of the most Homo Sapiens.
However, forcing never educates anyone.
> But I think that anyone, religious or not, can benefit from being "off the grid" once in a while.
I fully agree and to me that's an undeniable fact, and something that helps mental health a lot as well.
But, as a very busy man in his most active and productive years (I am 37 now and I estimate I'll be very active at least until 50), I found that taming my tech to not spam me and to only use it for things I really need (even though I am a programmer and we are known to get addicted easily) has been the second best thing.
Unlocking your phone and just poking at it is something I don't do for a long time and it helped me a lot. However, I do read Wikipedia and other focused articles regularly and I only extract educational value out of it.
There is a lot of overwhelm these days. It's not just our devices: peak tv, never ending YouTube videos, endless tweets, and a web we can never fully explore.
We live in overwhelming times. The key is not to simply downgrade ourselves, but to focus our selves. Practically applying minimalism to our lives to focus on what matters in our lives and sensibly removing things when they aren't adding value.
We live in overwhelming times. The key is not to simply downgrade ourselves, but to focus our selves. Practically applying minimalism to our lives to focus on what matters in our lives and sensibly removing things when they aren't adding value.
> There is a lot of overwhelm these days. It's not just our devices: peak tv, never ending YouTube videos, endless tweets, and a web we can never fully explore.
Endless everything. You can even apply qualifiers like "excellent" and still have a set of things that may as well be endless. There's an as-credible-as-one-could-hope-for top-1000 (one thousand!) movies meta-list out there, and there are more really, really good films than can fit on even such a long list. That's about a year of work, as in 40-hour work weeks, watching films, and that's just for one pass, when most of these are the sorts of things that reward repeat viewing. Realistically that's a lifetime of cinema for most people, without watching any low quality content—or anything newer than the first version of that list that was released.
And it's all accessible. The overwhelming majority of the list can be watch with, at worst, a 2-day wait for Prime shipping. You can go ahead and watch ten or so others on streaming services while you wait for that to arrive.
Legitimately-good TV is coming out faster than most people can watch it, unless high-quality TV shows are practically your only entertainment. A giant percentage of all recorded music ever can be accessed in seconds to minutes, and more with the aforementioned 2-day shipping wait.
An idea Vonnegut explored at least a couple times is that recorded media killed the value of (relatively) mundane creative expression by putting everyone in competition with the greats in a given field, and that the lives of those who might have given some joy and been valued by their community for their small talents are deeply, negatively affected by this. Now the greats are constantly in competition with all the other greats, from all time, and our major problem and a source of anxiety is figuring out what's the very best thing out of all these excellent things we can enjoy in each moment. Opinions on those topics are subject to the exact same forces and accessibility, ouroboros-like.
The level of choice is crippling, and I don't think it's actually improving most people's lives over a world with at least a little more friction to flitting between excellent entertainment—the distraction of it all, and its addictive power, both inherent and deliberately added through UI that drives engagement, is probably making things worse in some ways.
Maybe the video store wasn't so bad. Maybe the books at the local library were pretty good. Maybe spending a good long time with one record you picked up and are really enjoying is better than knowing that popular opinion holds it's a middling album by that band, so instead you listen to a plausible top-ten albums in that genre from this year (none of which are by that band you liked... in fact why did you like them if they're so bad? That's embarrassing) once or twice each. Do you feel any better? Is your life actually richer? Can this kind of relationship with media and entertainment even be enriching?
You can still behave like that of course, but damned if the possibility that there's something better, and the near-certaintly of being able to quickly act on new information, isn't a nearly irresistible temptation. Maybe you should google this before you pick it up. What does metacritic say? And so on.
And don't even get me started on data hoarding. Fear of death made manifest in mountains of data we can't hope to process or appreciate. Better go check my backups. May need a bigger drive. Some day I'm totally going to relive my childhood with a marathon of all these pirated tvrips of shows that'll never be released again for licensing reasons. If bitrot or a drive crash eats them or, god forbid, I delete them, I may never find them again and they'll be gone forever—forever! Just like so many things used to be just a couple decades ago, and like everything was that couldn't be written down a century and a half ago, all the way back to the dawn of recorded (!) history. I really should find a couple hundred hours to sort these directories of family photos and pare them down to a smaller, comprehensible set. Maybe move—not delete, then I'd never see them again if I wanted to!—mediocre ones out of the way. Not now though. Just thinking about all of them makes me anxious. Thank god we have them, though, rather than a cherished shoebox full of polaroids. They're so very important.
Endless everything. You can even apply qualifiers like "excellent" and still have a set of things that may as well be endless. There's an as-credible-as-one-could-hope-for top-1000 (one thousand!) movies meta-list out there, and there are more really, really good films than can fit on even such a long list. That's about a year of work, as in 40-hour work weeks, watching films, and that's just for one pass, when most of these are the sorts of things that reward repeat viewing. Realistically that's a lifetime of cinema for most people, without watching any low quality content—or anything newer than the first version of that list that was released.
And it's all accessible. The overwhelming majority of the list can be watch with, at worst, a 2-day wait for Prime shipping. You can go ahead and watch ten or so others on streaming services while you wait for that to arrive.
Legitimately-good TV is coming out faster than most people can watch it, unless high-quality TV shows are practically your only entertainment. A giant percentage of all recorded music ever can be accessed in seconds to minutes, and more with the aforementioned 2-day shipping wait.
An idea Vonnegut explored at least a couple times is that recorded media killed the value of (relatively) mundane creative expression by putting everyone in competition with the greats in a given field, and that the lives of those who might have given some joy and been valued by their community for their small talents are deeply, negatively affected by this. Now the greats are constantly in competition with all the other greats, from all time, and our major problem and a source of anxiety is figuring out what's the very best thing out of all these excellent things we can enjoy in each moment. Opinions on those topics are subject to the exact same forces and accessibility, ouroboros-like.
The level of choice is crippling, and I don't think it's actually improving most people's lives over a world with at least a little more friction to flitting between excellent entertainment—the distraction of it all, and its addictive power, both inherent and deliberately added through UI that drives engagement, is probably making things worse in some ways.
Maybe the video store wasn't so bad. Maybe the books at the local library were pretty good. Maybe spending a good long time with one record you picked up and are really enjoying is better than knowing that popular opinion holds it's a middling album by that band, so instead you listen to a plausible top-ten albums in that genre from this year (none of which are by that band you liked... in fact why did you like them if they're so bad? That's embarrassing) once or twice each. Do you feel any better? Is your life actually richer? Can this kind of relationship with media and entertainment even be enriching?
You can still behave like that of course, but damned if the possibility that there's something better, and the near-certaintly of being able to quickly act on new information, isn't a nearly irresistible temptation. Maybe you should google this before you pick it up. What does metacritic say? And so on.
And don't even get me started on data hoarding. Fear of death made manifest in mountains of data we can't hope to process or appreciate. Better go check my backups. May need a bigger drive. Some day I'm totally going to relive my childhood with a marathon of all these pirated tvrips of shows that'll never be released again for licensing reasons. If bitrot or a drive crash eats them or, god forbid, I delete them, I may never find them again and they'll be gone forever—forever! Just like so many things used to be just a couple decades ago, and like everything was that couldn't be written down a century and a half ago, all the way back to the dawn of recorded (!) history. I really should find a couple hundred hours to sort these directories of family photos and pare them down to a smaller, comprehensible set. Maybe move—not delete, then I'd never see them again if I wanted to!—mediocre ones out of the way. Not now though. Just thinking about all of them makes me anxious. Thank god we have them, though, rather than a cherished shoebox full of polaroids. They're so very important.
> An idea Vonnegut explored at least a couple times is that recorded media killed the value of (relatively) mundane creative expression by putting everyone in competition with the greats in a given field, and that the lives of those who might have given some joy and been valued by their community for their small talents are deeply, negatively affected by this.
Could you point me to where I can read more about this? I've explored this thought myself and it's really frustrating. It used to be if you were the best skateboarder (or Smash Bros player, or yo-yoer, or cup stacker, or...) at your junior high, you were hot stuff. Now you've got to compete with all skaters, everywhere thanks to Youtube.
Could you point me to where I can read more about this? I've explored this thought myself and it's really frustrating. It used to be if you were the best skateboarder (or Smash Bros player, or yo-yoer, or cup stacker, or...) at your junior high, you were hot stuff. Now you've got to compete with all skaters, everywhere thanks to Youtube.
In Vonnegut's case I remember seeing it at or near the beginning of a chapter of Bluebeard, a book notable for being a kind of whirlwind tour of all of Vonnegut's major ideas and themes (and one of my favorites of his—but I'm weird and tend to prefer his non- or less-sci-fi books). I think the idea comes up in at least one other Vonnegut book or story, like most of the other things in Bluebeard, but can't recall which. Not at home with my books or I'd type out that part for you, as it's not too long.
As for a broader or more rigorous examination of the idea, my guess is you'd be looking for something in the field of Media Studies, though I'm not sure what—I've read practically nothing of that sort aside from some breezy, pop-ish stuff from Chomsky and DFW, though I intend to dig into it more deeply at some point.
I'd be surprised if some of the more thoughtful sports writers hadn't also covered it, especially with ever-increasing minimum skill levels (and so time commitments) required to participate in most sports at a pro or semi-pro level, though I know exactly nothing about that genre and so can't help you there. For that matter, there may be some variety of thinking-about-the-arts-and-artists-in-general discipline for which this is a big deal, distinct from Media Studies.
As for a broader or more rigorous examination of the idea, my guess is you'd be looking for something in the field of Media Studies, though I'm not sure what—I've read practically nothing of that sort aside from some breezy, pop-ish stuff from Chomsky and DFW, though I intend to dig into it more deeply at some point.
I'd be surprised if some of the more thoughtful sports writers hadn't also covered it, especially with ever-increasing minimum skill levels (and so time commitments) required to participate in most sports at a pro or semi-pro level, though I know exactly nothing about that genre and so can't help you there. For that matter, there may be some variety of thinking-about-the-arts-and-artists-in-general discipline for which this is a big deal, distinct from Media Studies.
And don't forget the bookmarks
Good point. I've come to accept that bookmarking tabs is just a mechanism for making me feel OK closing them, and that I will never, ever go back through my bookmarks to look at that stuff. Haven't done it in over 20 years of web browsing, so why would I start now? They're just a psychological crutch. I used them a little before the days of history search in the address bar, but not since.
Doesn't stop me from carefully backing up "bookmarks.html" or similar any time I retire a device or an OS installation, naturally. I must have 30 of those things buried in places like "old_backups/junk/old_laptop_backup/user/desktop/junk/rescued_from_old_hd/floppy_backups/backup/bookmarks.html".
Doesn't stop me from carefully backing up "bookmarks.html" or similar any time I retire a device or an OS installation, naturally. I must have 30 of those things buried in places like "old_backups/junk/old_laptop_backup/user/desktop/junk/rescued_from_old_hd/floppy_backups/backup/bookmarks.html".
After I lost my bookmarks in a Firefox upgrade, i lost interest in keeping things bookmarked.
Plus, as research has shown, most links will be dead in a couple years.
Btw, do you use Pinboard?, have heard good things about it, specially the archive option.
Btw, do you use Pinboard?, have heard good things about it, specially the archive option.
I use pinboard, I only needed to pay once (I got in before the yearly subscriptions), but I still pay for archiving.
I rarely use the archives and nothing I've looked at pinboard has gone away, but it's only been a year. I'm thinking, just looking at my own behavior, over the next 2-3 years it'll get worse.
I have to say though it's not easy to get to the archive from somewhere. It's easier to look at archive.is or way back machine first than look at my own bookmark.
I rarely use the archives and nothing I've looked at pinboard has gone away, but it's only been a year. I'm thinking, just looking at my own behavior, over the next 2-3 years it'll get worse.
I have to say though it's not easy to get to the archive from somewhere. It's easier to look at archive.is or way back machine first than look at my own bookmark.
I put my twitter password behind a hash function that takes a good 10 minutes to run. So current me can make future me a lot more productive by hitting "log out". Future me usually turns out lazy enough to actually just do work!
How does this work? Do you change it every time you log in? Or do you just force yourself to not look at or save the password each time you retrieve it?
Password I know -> hash function (probably with millions or billions of iterations) -> Twitter password that I don't know.
Not peeking at the Twitter password is a non-issue, people don't generally memorize the output of hash functions, even if they wanted to, they are a long string of random characters.
Here's an example: the SHA256 hash of your username is 328BFB7DEAB24355A7A0D2377AB8DEF70D8DECF968E90AA507D590ACDD25A7AC if you were to then hash 328BFB7DEAB24355A7A0D2377AB8DEF70D8DECF968E90AA507D590ACDD25A7AC you'd get 227D82D075605DE042164082145FC7D296DF20C4BAAA2834B5541182C0D13051. Hash that and get 2062A298907588A3045EE89D9C366C64097924BC50F48981CF4A736B9BB093DF. Now repeat that process a billion or so times and you'll calculate your Twitter password.
This is a really great idea, it's literally impossible to overcome the restriction.
Not peeking at the Twitter password is a non-issue, people don't generally memorize the output of hash functions, even if they wanted to, they are a long string of random characters.
Here's an example: the SHA256 hash of your username is 328BFB7DEAB24355A7A0D2377AB8DEF70D8DECF968E90AA507D590ACDD25A7AC if you were to then hash 328BFB7DEAB24355A7A0D2377AB8DEF70D8DECF968E90AA507D590ACDD25A7AC you'd get 227D82D075605DE042164082145FC7D296DF20C4BAAA2834B5541182C0D13051. Hash that and get 2062A298907588A3045EE89D9C366C64097924BC50F48981CF4A736B9BB093DF. Now repeat that process a billion or so times and you'll calculate your Twitter password.
This is a really great idea, it's literally impossible to overcome the restriction.
He probably uses a randomly generated password that he doesn't bother memorizing and which he copy/pastes.
I did something a little more drastic. I have a electronic timer device on my plug socket for the internet router.
So much easier than screwing around with software.
So much easier than screwing around with software.
Throw your method up on Github and help save us all.
This is just immature. Can't you, you know, just restrain yourself?
EDIT: Don't you feel emotionally drained after doing, say, a long Twitter session? Doesn't that trigger a natural self-preservation instinct in you? That's how it worked for me.
EDIT: Don't you feel emotionally drained after doing, say, a long Twitter session? Doesn't that trigger a natural self-preservation instinct in you? That's how it worked for me.
I recently downgraded to a flip phone and it has been wonderful. I missed Google Maps for transit during a trip to NYC, but otherwise it's been great - not being leashed to the internet by my own lack of self-control is wonderful.
I'm still on a smartphone, but I took away notification permissions from anything that doesn't need it. It's helped a lot with not looking at my phone more than I want to. If anybody wants an intermediate step before you switch back to a flip phone, give this a shot.
Looking at you, Facebook, with your "Somebody you don't actually care about posted for the first time in a while."
Looking at you, Facebook, with your "Somebody you don't actually care about posted for the first time in a while."
Fully seconded. Directly removing smartphones is extreme. I can tame my smartphone quite stringently and it is doing exactly what I want it to do.
Any app I feel is a source of anxiety I can either cripple notifications and permissions from, or uninstall.
Any app I feel is a source of anxiety I can either cripple notifications and permissions from, or uninstall.
I did the same for Facebook - no more notifications. Unfortunately, that also stops notifications from Messenger which I'd prefer to get, but oh well.
I uninstalled the Facebook app, and use the website. It's 90% as good in functionality, and 1000% better in what it can and cannot do with data on my phone.
(If you post and comment regularly, you may prefer the app. I mostly use the site for casual browsing, and checking the address of events I'm on my way to.)
(If you post and comment regularly, you may prefer the app. I mostly use the site for casual browsing, and checking the address of events I'm on my way to.)
They're separate apps, not sure why you don't get them from messenger.
I've left that one's notification access open because at least for now it only uses them for someone sending me a message. Fingers cross they don't move the "SOMEBODY JUST WENT LIVE WITH VIDEO!!!!" over to that.
I've left that one's notification access open because at least for now it only uses them for someone sending me a message. Fingers cross they don't move the "SOMEBODY JUST WENT LIVE WITH VIDEO!!!!" over to that.
Thank you for being open about your own lack of control with the internet.
You're not alone.
You're not alone.
I've downgraded to a flip phone for about a year, and recently re-upgraded for Uber + Google Maps + Spotify. I've pushed the self control thing back to "what apps do I have installed".
Basically what will notify me is direct messages from Slack and text messages. That's about it. It's fantastic. I have no idea why people put up with getting poked so goddamn often.
Basically what will notify me is direct messages from Slack and text messages. That's about it. It's fantastic. I have no idea why people put up with getting poked so goddamn often.
They have boring lives and like to feel important. I am not even joking. Some people even openly admitted that to me when half-drunk.
what I find just as useful is installing Replicant, the completely open-source version of android phone. By not using Google Play and relying entirely on F-DROID, the app selection is much smaller, although I find I'm able to install just the essential apps, without the distracting ones.
Another way of looking at this is tangibility. I think people are starting to become nostalgic for simpler devices, things they can wrap their heads around and grasp how they work. Today's technology can be overwhelming to many, and might find comfort in old school.
>>> things they can wrap their heads around and grasp how they work
For me this is a synonym of "things they can repair, modify", that is, things they control. Maybe we feel a threshold here (threshold because this all started long ago).
Society advanced so much (to me) that anything you look at is now super advanced (be it technological, organizational, commercial). And therefore, much less controllable by oneself.
For me this is a synonym of "things they can repair, modify", that is, things they control. Maybe we feel a threshold here (threshold because this all started long ago).
Society advanced so much (to me) that anything you look at is now super advanced (be it technological, organizational, commercial). And therefore, much less controllable by oneself.
That's my exact understanding as well, thank you.
I feel the tech slips into way too much complexity. I feel better if I can repair something or at least understand why it's not working well.
I feel the tech slips into way too much complexity. I feel better if I can repair something or at least understand why it's not working well.
Agreed. I think the author is swinging pretty far on the spectrum and there is a balance. Definitely considering if your need vs want something and making that tradeoff intelligently. I have a kindle and read a lot of books. It's a few generations old and doesn't really need to get updated. Cell phones can be really addicting to the point where I'm not even really doing anything on it, just staring and touching buttons. I don't have it in the bedroom because then I'd never get to sleep.
Everything is good in moderation. I have begun banning myself from sites like HN or putting my cell phone in do not disturb mode. I am not sure why these vapid "productivity posts" only have either or options and why it must be 100% one side or another.
I did something similar. I picked up another hobby, and avoid these sites for all but a tiny window during the day.
A while back I found myself wasting 4+ hours every night at home, "looking for something to do" online. This usually involved a lot of Steam, Reddit, etc. Never doing anything real, always wasting time.
So I forced myself to pick up another hobby that will hopefully not share too much with the tired regions of my brain (i.e., programming work days). My goal is to fill my day with life improving things that I enjoy, but don't overlap is skillsets. Hopefully reducing fatigue.
The last thing I want is to burn out on programming because I force myself to do that non-stop at home too. I'm just sick of wasting time.
A while back I found myself wasting 4+ hours every night at home, "looking for something to do" online. This usually involved a lot of Steam, Reddit, etc. Never doing anything real, always wasting time.
So I forced myself to pick up another hobby that will hopefully not share too much with the tired regions of my brain (i.e., programming work days). My goal is to fill my day with life improving things that I enjoy, but don't overlap is skillsets. Hopefully reducing fatigue.
The last thing I want is to burn out on programming because I force myself to do that non-stop at home too. I'm just sick of wasting time.
This is the key. "Moderation in all things, including moderation" is the most important advice my late father gave me.
I will freely admit that this is advice that occasionally gives me cause to grumble at him when hungover.
I will freely admit that this is advice that occasionally gives me cause to grumble at him when hungover.
My phone is almost always on DND and the apps that can send notifications are somewhere between 6 to 11 -- and I'll probably reduce them only to Slack and email these days.
The weak points in the article you pointed out, plus the self-shaming the author does -- "I feel bad about it" -- don't help. Extremism doesn't help.
One has to discover what works best for them, not being an extremist. And no, being an extremist doesn't work (well, maybe for 0.0001% of the world population).
The weak points in the article you pointed out, plus the self-shaming the author does -- "I feel bad about it" -- don't help. Extremism doesn't help.
One has to discover what works best for them, not being an extremist. And no, being an extremist doesn't work (well, maybe for 0.0001% of the world population).
> Everything is good in moderation
I would add "and in the correct context"
I would add "and in the correct context"
I can see this becoming a form of status-signalling in years to come (if it is not already?)
Just as a sign of status for the CEO used to be the ability to disappear off to the golf course for a few hours, the new status might be the ability to be effectively inaccessible.
The rest of us will have to put up with companies deliberately manipulating "habit forming" type behaviours to push their products. [1]
[1] https://www.nirandfar.com/hooked
Just as a sign of status for the CEO used to be the ability to disappear off to the golf course for a few hours, the new status might be the ability to be effectively inaccessible.
The rest of us will have to put up with companies deliberately manipulating "habit forming" type behaviours to push their products. [1]
[1] https://www.nirandfar.com/hooked
Or folks will be so in-tune with their connected ways that a service which "allows" you to disappear is more apparent than just throwing your phone off a bridge.
Sometimes I wonder philosophically, how it is that electronics and digital systems - essentially, electrified/energized systems of some kind, have addictive and confounding properties to advancing societies and humans, similar to the way oil/petroleum/gas is to our way of life?
Oil/petroleum/gas have huge societal and human benefits, and yet, so many negative side effects (climate change, pollution, war, etc.) and complications. "Energy" has these challenges, like many natural resources.
sigh
I can't quite find the right words.. The electrification / "energization" of things seems to add this tangible quality of also being confounding, complicating and somehow exhausting to us.
It's like when you are walking out in nature somewhere remote, say, in a forest, where all you see are trees and rocks and rivers/streams, and breathe fresh air. There is something about this natural/analog state of being that can soothe us (although, nature can be quite alarming too). Books, analog toothbrushes, un-powered hand tools... things like this seem (in my opinion) to help humans feel... more human (and in control).
There was a moment of this kind of feeling of awe of nature that was so amazing the other day when the eclipse happened in the US. A moment where it was like, everyone put down their phones, their lives, their problems and... just observed this phenomenon of beauty. It was simple and fleeting, but wonderful.
I think the author is onto something here, but it's hard to say it in words. Is it an awakening of humanity within the digital age? A recognition of nature and humanity as something to balance with energy, digital, electronic? It definitely seems we are on this kind of a path.
Lest we forget that, it would not be the first time that there have been "awakenings" and "enlightenment" in humanity's history. For example, in western cultures - [1] [2], and certainly others in other cultures. It seems there is something to be learned from history here.
[1] The age of enlightment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment
[2] The great awakening (religious context): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Great_Awakening
Oil/petroleum/gas have huge societal and human benefits, and yet, so many negative side effects (climate change, pollution, war, etc.) and complications. "Energy" has these challenges, like many natural resources.
sigh
I can't quite find the right words.. The electrification / "energization" of things seems to add this tangible quality of also being confounding, complicating and somehow exhausting to us.
It's like when you are walking out in nature somewhere remote, say, in a forest, where all you see are trees and rocks and rivers/streams, and breathe fresh air. There is something about this natural/analog state of being that can soothe us (although, nature can be quite alarming too). Books, analog toothbrushes, un-powered hand tools... things like this seem (in my opinion) to help humans feel... more human (and in control).
There was a moment of this kind of feeling of awe of nature that was so amazing the other day when the eclipse happened in the US. A moment where it was like, everyone put down their phones, their lives, their problems and... just observed this phenomenon of beauty. It was simple and fleeting, but wonderful.
I think the author is onto something here, but it's hard to say it in words. Is it an awakening of humanity within the digital age? A recognition of nature and humanity as something to balance with energy, digital, electronic? It definitely seems we are on this kind of a path.
Lest we forget that, it would not be the first time that there have been "awakenings" and "enlightenment" in humanity's history. For example, in western cultures - [1] [2], and certainly others in other cultures. It seems there is something to be learned from history here.
[1] The age of enlightment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment
[2] The great awakening (religious context): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Great_Awakening
I think you would be interested in Biophilic Design.
https://www.terrapinbrightgreen.com/report/14-patterns/
https://www.terrapinbrightgreen.com/report/14-patterns/
Indeed I am! Thank you so much for sharing with me, I have never heard the term. Looks like a lot of interesting reading & learning here!
I'm researching the construction of my house, framing to finishing, and the handbook made me think of the higher level side affects of material choice, shape, I had not fully considered before.
I also strongly recommend "Home Comforts" by Cheryl Mendelson. It is about the home as a series of systems, I thought there was a lot of value in it, there were a lot of subtle ideas you wouldn't normally think about but which ultimately make your life easier. It is nice seeing all the little pieces fit together. I know Sam Altman/sama recommends Stewart Brand's book on changing architecture as a general pattern for systems but I think the Home Comforts book curiously beats the pants off it.
I also strongly recommend "Home Comforts" by Cheryl Mendelson. It is about the home as a series of systems, I thought there was a lot of value in it, there were a lot of subtle ideas you wouldn't normally think about but which ultimately make your life easier. It is nice seeing all the little pieces fit together. I know Sam Altman/sama recommends Stewart Brand's book on changing architecture as a general pattern for systems but I think the Home Comforts book curiously beats the pants off it.
Book reviewer runs from technology. Surprise. Considering I have poor dental hygiene I upgraded to a base model electric toothbrush and have never been healthier. Terrible advice/article. I don't have a lot of fanciful gadgets but those I do have purpose.
The article is too extreme. And gives bad examples (the electric toothbrush is proven to improve dental health of many people, me included).
In general however, it's correct.
But I don't go 100% this side or the other side. I find that to be irrational... hm, let me just be fully honest: I find that to be stupid.
I crippled most of my smartphone apps' permissions and notification access and I am a happier person for it. Most apps want to "drive up engagement" so they spam you with whatever. I simply don't allow it.
I use my smartphone to read books and articles I am really interested in, to collect digital art I enjoy, and do an occasional social network consumption -- but never above a certain time threshold (which is different for everyone). Also watch videos and lectures. It's a very positive experience after I fine-tuned it for myself, which everyone is supposed to do anyway, IMO.
We shouldn't be extremists. Smartphones and most modern tech have very valid uses. But we have to resist the addictions. It's actually pretty easy.
In general however, it's correct.
But I don't go 100% this side or the other side. I find that to be irrational... hm, let me just be fully honest: I find that to be stupid.
I crippled most of my smartphone apps' permissions and notification access and I am a happier person for it. Most apps want to "drive up engagement" so they spam you with whatever. I simply don't allow it.
I use my smartphone to read books and articles I am really interested in, to collect digital art I enjoy, and do an occasional social network consumption -- but never above a certain time threshold (which is different for everyone). Also watch videos and lectures. It's a very positive experience after I fine-tuned it for myself, which everyone is supposed to do anyway, IMO.
We shouldn't be extremists. Smartphones and most modern tech have very valid uses. But we have to resist the addictions. It's actually pretty easy.
There are some things in this article that I can definitely identify with, mainly the 'old laptop' that she was talking about, but an electric toothbrush??? That's hardly the notification-blasting brain-melter that she so despises.
I'd certainly go back to a flip-phone if they had cameras like current smartphones.
I'd certainly go back to a flip-phone if they had cameras like current smartphones.
There's a reason I still play 60-year-old guitars through tube amps and other ratty old gear.
It's kinda my escape from 1's and 0's. Sometimes I'm convinced we dove too fast into this whole digital everything, thing.
It's kinda my escape from 1's and 0's. Sometimes I'm convinced we dove too fast into this whole digital everything, thing.
Ooh, look at Mr. Les Paul over here with his new-fangled, high-tech, amplifiers. :-) I have a rack full of effects and the like lying around, but in my advancing years I find even plugging something in to be more friction than I want. So whatever comes out of the sound hole is good enough. Makes music at the campsite easier, too.
And by all means, rock on. I just found it amusing from my POV that “simplifying” still involved plugging something in.
And by all means, rock on. I just found it amusing from my POV that “simplifying” still involved plugging something in.
Just an example.
Nothing more simple than flesh and strings. That's what it's all about, really.
Nothing more simple than flesh and strings. That's what it's all about, really.
Entirely too fast. We have no idea what we are doing.
Music is an evergreen respite, and I love to play with the sound of analog. But I'm under no illusions: I almost exclusively use digital models of analog gear. The technology was already to the point of effectively indistinguishable 15 years ago, and modern emulations border on lovingly obsessive overkill.
I will never own a Yamaha CS-80. The extraordinary bulk, unreliability, and expense make the signature synth of Vangelis unpalatable in every way but its sound. But the software version I use captures that effervescent analog flutter to a better degree than I can possibly discern, and it all fits on my MacBook.
I will never own a Yamaha CS-80. The extraordinary bulk, unreliability, and expense make the signature synth of Vangelis unpalatable in every way but its sound. But the software version I use captures that effervescent analog flutter to a better degree than I can possibly discern, and it all fits on my MacBook.
It sure does have its convenience going for it.
But like the hipster with their vinyl; I still yearn for that electric glow of vacuum tubes. It doesn't make sense - it doesn't have to - the tactility of it all is an experience in its own. Like a manual toothbrush.
But like the hipster with their vinyl; I still yearn for that electric glow of vacuum tubes. It doesn't make sense - it doesn't have to - the tactility of it all is an experience in its own. Like a manual toothbrush.
Or learn some self control and restraint.
No idea why you're downvoted.
There will always be a corporation out there that feeds on our primal instincts and trying to addict us to their products. That ain't ever going away.
That's why teaching yourself restraint is hugely important these days. Guess many people haven't reached the mental state in which they recognize this truth.
There will always be a corporation out there that feeds on our primal instincts and trying to addict us to their products. That ain't ever going away.
That's why teaching yourself restraint is hugely important these days. Guess many people haven't reached the mental state in which they recognize this truth.
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DVDs?! Movies on physical objects?! shudder