Ask HN: How would you download a browser without a browser?
Theoretically, let's say you have a brand new laptop that is fully functional but has no built-in browser. (You also don't have a phone or any other separate device.) How would you download a web browser without being able to see the web?
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In Windows you can use FTP in Explorer. Or, if you want to do it from the command line, type in Powershell:
>Invoke-WebRequest -Uri $url -OutFile $output
On *nix you might have curl or wget installed.
On Android and iOS use their respective app stores.
>Invoke-WebRequest -Uri $url -OutFile $output
On *nix you might have curl or wget installed.
On Android and iOS use their respective app stores.
Most of the curl/powershell answers assume you know the URL to download it from, which might not be correct since they are usually long and not easy to memorize.
However, considering the scenario on the question, I would assume that browser vendors would create very easy-to-remember URLs so you could get their browser without having to memorize 100-character-long URL e.g. mozilla.org/firefox.[exe,bin,sh,deb]
However, considering the scenario on the question, I would assume that browser vendors would create very easy-to-remember URLs so you could get their browser without having to memorize 100-character-long URL e.g. mozilla.org/firefox.[exe,bin,sh,deb]
I agree, that the browser vendors should do this for this purpose. Perhaps also add a file "downloads.txt" which explains them so that you will know which file to download (even if the file you want to download isn't a web browser).
Tinyurl or similar can be used to create a small url.
If you're stuck on windows maybe you could try this:
curl -o fi.exe -L -C - "https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-stub&os=win64&... && ./fi.exe
curl -o fi.exe -L -C - "https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-stub&os=win64&... && ./fi.exe
Debian based OS is easy: apt install firefox
Other Linux OS, consult your package manager of choice.
Mac should have curl or wget that you can use (plus safari, but we'll ignore that).
Windows has Invoke-WebRequest in Powershell that you can use (plus IE/Edge, but we'll ignore).
You can do a Google search with those command line tools to find the firefox install page and download the installer.
What prompted this question? Real problem?
Other Linux OS, consult your package manager of choice.
Mac should have curl or wget that you can use (plus safari, but we'll ignore that).
Windows has Invoke-WebRequest in Powershell that you can use (plus IE/Edge, but we'll ignore).
You can do a Google search with those command line tools to find the firefox install page and download the installer.
What prompted this question? Real problem?
Keep a liveboot USB handy with OS that has a browser. Boot with it.
Save a few installers for common browsers on a USB/SDC/local NAS etc.
If your on *nix, wget/curl/ftp/scp/sftp the files from a known location.
You can do the same in Windows in powershell or CMD
sudo apt install firefoxYou download lynx, text based browser, via ftp and download Firefox with lynx.
Some devices that claim not to have a browser do actually have a browser, as it is used solely for Wi-Fi captive portals.
I seem to remember that the Nintendo Switch has one of these 'hidden' browsers.
I seem to remember that the Nintendo Switch has one of these 'hidden' browsers.
>new laptop that is fully functional but has no built-in browser
doesnt exist, either its fully functional and has a browser, or its missing operating system.
doesnt exist, either its fully functional and has a browser, or its missing operating system.
MacOS: install https://brew.sh/ , then 'brew cask install firefox'
Linux, e.g. 'sudo apt install snapd', then 'sudo snap install firefox' (https://snapcraft.io/install/firefox/ubuntu)
Linux, e.g. 'sudo apt install snapd', then 'sudo snap install firefox' (https://snapcraft.io/install/firefox/ubuntu)
Why not get Firefox from apt?
In the 90's, the answer was FTP.
Homebrew, Chocolatey, apt, or curl.
wget, curl.
Bittorrent or FTP
Getting BitTorrent installed seems like it would be a challenge. FTP seems possible as most OSes preinstall it, but what FTP server has a browser installer and how would you find it?
wget / curl or your OS package manager