Navajo Nation and Other Native American Reservations Hit Hard by Covid-19(cybercoastal.com)
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Navajo Nation and Other Native American Reservations Hit Hard by Covid-19
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PSA:
Vitamin D deficiency is a strong factor, not for getting Covid-19, but for bad outcomes.
It's especially common for people with dark skin, since that blocks the ability of producing Vitamin D from sunlight.
If that's part of what's happening to the Navajo, I don't know, but you should probably eat Vitamin D pills, especially during this indoor lockdown, and if if you have dark skin.
Vitamin D deficiency is a strong factor, not for getting Covid-19, but for bad outcomes.
It's especially common for people with dark skin, since that blocks the ability of producing Vitamin D from sunlight.
If that's part of what's happening to the Navajo, I don't know, but you should probably eat Vitamin D pills, especially during this indoor lockdown, and if if you have dark skin.
> Vitamin D deficiency is a strong factor, not for getting Covid-19, but for bad outcomes.
It might be a strong factor - this isn't yet demonstrated conclusively by enough peer reviewed studies yet, so it shouldnt be described as conclusive. Thankfully, there a long history of vitamin D supplementation, so unlike hydroxychloroquine, it isn't likely to increase death rates. At worst it might just do nothing.
Also, a number of common foods contain or are supplemented with vitamin D. Assuming that somebody has no fundamental issues with vitamin D absorption from food, a typical healthy diet that includes some of those foods should be sufficient to keep a person out of vitamin D deficiency, with no pill-based supplement needed.
It might be a strong factor - this isn't yet demonstrated conclusively by enough peer reviewed studies yet, so it shouldnt be described as conclusive. Thankfully, there a long history of vitamin D supplementation, so unlike hydroxychloroquine, it isn't likely to increase death rates. At worst it might just do nothing.
Also, a number of common foods contain or are supplemented with vitamin D. Assuming that somebody has no fundamental issues with vitamin D absorption from food, a typical healthy diet that includes some of those foods should be sufficient to keep a person out of vitamin D deficiency, with no pill-based supplement needed.
Stats indicate that Vit D defficiency is very common.
i.e. a typical diet does not provide enough vit D.
A "typical healthy diet" can provide even less vit D since much of the vit D consumed it from fortified milk and breakfast cereals.
I think a lot of people would benefit from boosters right now. As you say, it does no harm.
A "typical healthy diet" can provide even less vit D since much of the vit D consumed it from fortified milk and breakfast cereals.
I think a lot of people would benefit from boosters right now. As you say, it does no harm.
https://nutrition.bmj.com/content/early/2020/05/15/bmjnph-20...
"There is no strong scientific evidence to show that very high intakes (ie, mega supplements) of vitamin D will be beneficial in preventing or treating COVID-19."
"There is no strong scientific evidence to show that very high intakes (ie, mega supplements) of vitamin D will be beneficial in preventing or treating COVID-19."
He wasn't saying high intakes of vitamin D would prevent or treat COVID-19, he was alluding to a belief that vitamin D deficiency reduces the chances of recovery from COVID-19. Obviously to correct vitamin D deficiency people require high intakes.
It's not good for people to be just advising "eat vitamin D" though.
People should consult a doctor to determine a) to what extent they are deficient (or not), and b) that they have no health issues that make taking vitamin D dangerous.
It's not good for people to be just advising "eat vitamin D" though.
People should consult a doctor to determine a) to what extent they are deficient (or not), and b) that they have no health issues that make taking vitamin D dangerous.
Disagree. Its your own job to get all the vitamins you need each day.
"Get outside more", is temporarily bad advice: "eat vit-d instead" is temporarily good advice.
Your doctor has more important things to do.
"Get outside more", is temporarily bad advice: "eat vit-d instead" is temporarily good advice.
Your doctor has more important things to do.
I'd love to hear all the more important things a doctor has to do than check whether someone needs a potentially dangerous supplement and that it isn't going to harm them.
The virus is a few months old.
Strong scientific evidence usually takes a lot longer than that to establish.
Also: I'm not advocating "very high" doses. A normal daily supplement dose should be just fine.
Strong scientific evidence usually takes a lot longer than that to establish.
Also: I'm not advocating "very high" doses. A normal daily supplement dose should be just fine.
I'm not sure how you managed to pull that quote out without reading the sentence immediately before it, saying that you should take a supplement during this indoor lockdown.
That statement has nothing to do with SARS-CoV-2 or COVID-19. That's long been general advice for anyone who spends significant portions of daylight hours indoors. I have been taking a Vitamin D supplement for years for that reason.
But the GP says deficiency is the problem, not that having loads and loads will help.
> It's especially common for people with dark skin
The Navajo have been in the general area (the US forcibly moved them, but the latitudes are similar) of where they are now for a long time. Their skin tone should be well-adapted to the region, unless they're not going outside.
The Navajo have been in the general area (the US forcibly moved them, but the latitudes are similar) of where they are now for a long time. Their skin tone should be well-adapted to the region, unless they're not going outside.
Only 600 years per wikipedia.
Yeah, I'm not sure how much this applies to the Navajo on the reservation specifically.
If they're living a regular American lifestyle, which often produces Vitamin D deficiency even for the palest white people, they will be affected even more.
But I mostly intended this as general advice for the HN readership.
If they're living a regular American lifestyle, which often produces Vitamin D deficiency even for the palest white people, they will be affected even more.
But I mostly intended this as general advice for the HN readership.
Joe Rogan had Dr Rhonda Patrick on a few days ago and gave a detailed rundown of the research into vitamin D vs Covid/respiratory illness in general, among other topics (timestamped to the start of Vitamin D talk but the whole podcast is definitely worth a listen)
https://youtu.be/4_ZJ8YDOX6g?t=1771
Vitamin D insufficiency has been strongly correlated to COVD-19 deaths and severe symptoms in various locations, although obviously more data is still needed to prove causation.
Either way unless you work outside you should probably be on 5000 IU of Vitamin D a day just to compensate for sunlight deprivation.
https://youtu.be/4_ZJ8YDOX6g?t=1771
Vitamin D insufficiency has been strongly correlated to COVD-19 deaths and severe symptoms in various locations, although obviously more data is still needed to prove causation.
Either way unless you work outside you should probably be on 5000 IU of Vitamin D a day just to compensate for sunlight deprivation.
This link will probably not work once his exclusivity deal kicks in.
About ten years ago H1N1 hit First Nations people really hard here in Canada. About 1/3 of the hospitalizations were First Nations women.
PDF http://www.nccah-ccnsa.ca/Publications/Lists/Publications/At...
PDF http://www.nccah-ccnsa.ca/Publications/Lists/Publications/At...
> About 1/3 of the hospitalizations were First Nations women.
Huh? That doesn't sound right.... and indeed looking at your source it isn't... but in some sense it looks like it might actually be worse than that
> Indigenous people accounted for 27.8% of all hospital admissions reported to PHAC during the first wave, but only 6.1% of hospital admissions during the second wave (Helferty et al., 2010).
Less than a third of hospitalizations were indigenous people (both genders), it seems, and later
> Rolland Harris et al. (2012), for example, found that Indigenous women accounted for 16.2% of hospitalized cases, [... continued below]
So indigenous women are 1/6th of hospitalizations (which makes sense with 1/3rd of hospitalization being indigenous people). But
> [... direct continuation of previous quote] 18.2% of ICU cases, and 50% of fatalities attributed to H1N1 influenza of those reporting ethnicity across Canada when both waves of the pandemic were combined.
Indigenous women were half of the total deaths???
I feel like something weird must be going on with these statistics.
Huh? That doesn't sound right.... and indeed looking at your source it isn't... but in some sense it looks like it might actually be worse than that
> Indigenous people accounted for 27.8% of all hospital admissions reported to PHAC during the first wave, but only 6.1% of hospital admissions during the second wave (Helferty et al., 2010).
Less than a third of hospitalizations were indigenous people (both genders), it seems, and later
> Rolland Harris et al. (2012), for example, found that Indigenous women accounted for 16.2% of hospitalized cases, [... continued below]
So indigenous women are 1/6th of hospitalizations (which makes sense with 1/3rd of hospitalization being indigenous people). But
> [... direct continuation of previous quote] 18.2% of ICU cases, and 50% of fatalities attributed to H1N1 influenza of those reporting ethnicity across Canada when both waves of the pandemic were combined.
Indigenous women were half of the total deaths???
I feel like something weird must be going on with these statistics.
>https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/ottawa-sends-body-ba....
How is this relevant? All it talks about is the government sending body bags with nothing related to infection/hospitalization/death rates.
How is this relevant? All it talks about is the government sending body bags with nothing related to infection/hospitalization/death rates.
The article doesn't really go into why the reservations were worse hit than other US areas. They are "sovereign" "nations" so surely they have some autonomy to set their own lockdown, travel policies, and other responses to the pandemic.
Did they have even worse governance than the US generally? Or dense living conditions? Or particularly vulnerable age profiles? I get that they're not generally wealthy, but probably wealthier than places like Vietnam and Mongolia which contained the spread very well.
Did they have even worse governance than the US generally? Or dense living conditions? Or particularly vulnerable age profiles? I get that they're not generally wealthy, but probably wealthier than places like Vietnam and Mongolia which contained the spread very well.
Several native nations traded their land for the promise of acceptable healthcare as part of treaties, which has not been held up to standard.[0]
Additionally, native nations in fact have tried to set their own lockdown and travel policies. State governments have threatened them for doing so.[1]
[0]. "For Native Americans, Health Care Is A Long, Hard Road Away" - https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/04/13/4738483...
[1]. "'I’m protecting my people': Tribal citizens defend coronavirus checkpoints amid threat from state" - https://www.indianz.com/News/2020/05/11/im-protecting-my-peo...
Additionally, native nations in fact have tried to set their own lockdown and travel policies. State governments have threatened them for doing so.[1]
[0]. "For Native Americans, Health Care Is A Long, Hard Road Away" - https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/04/13/4738483...
[1]. "'I’m protecting my people': Tribal citizens defend coronavirus checkpoints amid threat from state" - https://www.indianz.com/News/2020/05/11/im-protecting-my-peo...
I could see that affecting death rate, but not the rate of infection/spreading.
Having lived on reservations, Navajo Nation being one of them, I'd opine that the co-morbidities are the main contributing factor. The diabetes rates on the rez are many times that of the US population as are the rates of alcoholism.
Also households are very often multi-generational and more crowded than in the US.
Yes, they do have their own lockdown policies. On a drive in western NC this past month, we had to turn around as the Qualla Boundary was blocked by tribal police.
Yes, they do have their own lockdown policies. On a drive in western NC this past month, we had to turn around as the Qualla Boundary was blocked by tribal police.
I grew up in Farmington, this was my first thought, but also the rate of homelessness off the rez has always been very high (also with the same comorbidities), throw in the drop in oil price over the last 5 years, you have an area with additional economic depression.
The Navajo reservation is one of the least densely populated parts of the country so that's not it. Lack of infrastructure is a bigger issue. Many if not most of these people live close to the poverty line and so don't have many options with regard to quarantine. It's not like they can stock up and stay inside for a month.
It's also not like the nation can just isolate from the rest of the country. Much of the nation lives and/or works off of the reservation in nearby towns and cities. Bear in mind that by-and-large, the Navajo are not living a traditional subsistence lifestyle anymore. They simply don't have the land or resources to do that so the reservations are not self-sufficient.
It's also not like the nation can just isolate from the rest of the country. Much of the nation lives and/or works off of the reservation in nearby towns and cities. Bear in mind that by-and-large, the Navajo are not living a traditional subsistence lifestyle anymore. They simply don't have the land or resources to do that so the reservations are not self-sufficient.
From a news story here in Canada about Navajo - their nation is a "food desert" so people have to keep driving to the cities to buy everything, exposing themselves in the process (can't do Foodora/Uber Eats/Instacart). Lack of PPE seems to be a general problem as well.
Health care on reservations is already generally far below most US standards, and then they aren't receiving much of the federal/state support specifically for this.
Reservations basically operate with only the local government. Imagine your town trying to source all the required goods themselves while there's a supply shortage.
Reservations basically operate with only the local government. Imagine your town trying to source all the required goods themselves while there's a supply shortage.
Some tribes (Navajo Nation included) are still receiving direct health care. There's a huge hospital in Gallup, NM, as well as another in Shiprock. Health care is supplied by the federal Indian Health Services (of HHS). In no way should this be construed as "far below" most US Standards.
Other tribes have opted out of direct health care preferring to receive Title 638 funds to administer for their health care. These tribes' health care naturally varies with the way the individual tribes administer their programs.
The Navajo Nation is larger than the state of West Virginia, so the analogy of town-level government wouldn't seem to apply.
The Navajo Nation is the largest and most populous tribe by far, but it still wouldn't be one of the 100 most populous cities in America.
That said, I've only been on reservations in the Midwest. Other tribes may not face the same terrible conditions.
That said, I've only been on reservations in the Midwest. Other tribes may not face the same terrible conditions.
We lived on the line of Leech Lake Reservation (near Cass Lake, MN) but except for that and the Crow Reservation, the rest of our reservation experiences were in the southwest.
(IHS hospital/clinics)
Yes, they're all different; laws, customs, landscape, tribal government, etc; more than most people might imagine.
Yes, they're all different; laws, customs, landscape, tribal government, etc; more than most people might imagine.
Anecdotal:
My mother-in-law works at a hospital adjacent to a large reservation. They're treating large numbers of natives.
She says people from the reservation refuse to practice any social distancing or wear PPE.
My mother-in-law works at a hospital adjacent to a large reservation. They're treating large numbers of natives.
She says people from the reservation refuse to practice any social distancing or wear PPE.
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Reservations are prisoner of war camps from the 19th century that persist to this day. It is more illuminating to compare them to other similarly situated people around the world in terms of their social services and freedom to develop self governance
It's more complicated than that, at least now. Having land, even crummy land away from the ancestral homeland, is better than not having land, because:
a) you can afford to live there, as an extremely economically disadvantaged group.
b) your tribe is in one place, instead of scattered, which makes it possible to continue to have a group identity and
c) you have at least limited autonomy.
I know people in tribes that have been shafted by the BIA and refused official recognition or land. It hurts. See the documentary "Promised Land" [0] for their account.
0. https://www.promisedlanddoc.com/
a) you can afford to live there, as an extremely economically disadvantaged group.
b) your tribe is in one place, instead of scattered, which makes it possible to continue to have a group identity and
c) you have at least limited autonomy.
I know people in tribes that have been shafted by the BIA and refused official recognition or land. It hurts. See the documentary "Promised Land" [0] for their account.
0. https://www.promisedlanddoc.com/
A) in utter poverty created by the wars to expel and corral them into small, infertile, resourceless areas
B) It is good to be with your folks, I agree, even when forced into captivity together
C) their autonomy is violated essentially at whim by the fed, state, and local governments since the reservation system was created. You can see this happening now with Gov Noam in South Dakota and the Lakota
B) It is good to be with your folks, I agree, even when forced into captivity together
C) their autonomy is violated essentially at whim by the fed, state, and local governments since the reservation system was created. You can see this happening now with Gov Noam in South Dakota and the Lakota
Oh, I'm totally in agreement that the situation is unfair and that the US government engaged in genocide and cultural extermination of native peoples, and that reservations were created as ghettos for Indians so the whites could take their desirable lands. I am merely pointing out that there are tribes that have been denied federal recognition or reservations and want them, because a crappy deal is still better than no deal.
Sure.
But I was responding to the initial comment suggesting that the overwhelming spread in their community represented a failure of governance on their part in comparison to national governments like Vietnam
The casino had a very limited reopen with a lot of social distancing rules, but not a whole lot of enthusiasm from workers since most make more on unemployment than working. Basically, opened for the fishing crowd.
I would imagine the two main causes are housing and IHS. Let's face it Indian Health Service is not that good and actively a problem under the best of circumstances. A politician who actually believes in government provided health care could go a long ways to proving it by making IHS work. Search for "don't get sick after June" for a documentary on the subject. They did two very credible attempts to kill a couple of family members and misdiagnosing AIDS without waiting for test results didn't help my friends marriage one bit. I do admit to still being a might bit bitter over having to have three operations to fix a botched root canal.
The second is housing. Housing is scarce on many reservations which means large family groupings. Now, I understand some visitors from DC think its great that families live together like "the old days", but its not great, or cultural, and it sucks. Overcrowding isn't fun and not having access to the normal (e.g. mortgage from bank) with going through the tribe or a special program is really an issue. A former college president lived in his parents basement until he and his wife could afford to buy a house outright (well, a mobile that they moved). Its gotten better in recent years (better federal program), but large crowded houses get infected fairly fast.
The National Guard has been doing mass testing in ND and did do one on the reservation. It looked well organized and they were pushing a lot of people through. I was told later (we had the window blinds to the parking lot closed to avoid any privacy violations) that they had no positives.
I do wonder about the statistical differences between reservations and versus the general population. I am not always confident on the reported statistics.