It’s Time to Stop Nap-Shaming(nytimes.com)
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It’s Time to Stop Nap-Shaming
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/24/dining/thanksgiving-nap.html
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> might take up simple tasks during a wakeful period in the middle of the night, between two distinct bouts of sleep.
As I recall, this was more or less debunked.
As I recall, this was more or less debunked.
Source?
I found this, courtesy of quietbritishjim¹:
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2015/10/the-many...
1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16037465
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2015/10/the-many...
1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16037465
I've been remote for 12 years, and with the exception of the last year, I was in the habit of napping for an hour a day in the middle of the day, every day. Kids has thrown a wrench into the works on the weekends, but I've just started to get back to that and feel at my best once again. YMMV
Yea... so I used to do the whole nap thing too. I still always felt groggy and had a head fog. For the last 2 years I decided to discipline myself to get roughly 8 hours of sleep every night (a sleep mask to block out excess light has been a God send). Also no caffeine after 5pm and only 2 cups of coffee max per day. Oh and less carb, more protein diet with daily exercise. In essence, I quit giving myself excuses for being a lazy whinner. Other than the Thanksgiving food coma, I dont take naps because, and sit down for this revelation, I dont need to since I get a proper amount of rest nearly every single night. Look, sometimes life throws shit in your face and a nap is a great stop gap remedy to pull you through. Nothing wrong with getting stitches when you get a cut. Theres a problem when you keep cutting yourself because you jump into a pool of knives everyday. It's just weird that we are fetishizing piss poor health habits and then glorifying the bandaid fixes instead of simply addressing the main problem. But hey, that's the great evil self-responsibility everyone wants to avoid.
Little tip, stop drinking coffee after 3pm. Try to drink at least 2-3L of water until 5pm, not later or your sleep will be disturbed by..well pissing, at 8-9 do a little (easy) jogging but not more then 10 minutes, drink a little bit of water after jogging and go to bed 1-2 hours later, you will sleep like a princess.
Agreed that the sooner your caffeine cutoff is, the better. I used to do 7pm with poor results. I find 5pm and going to bed at around 11pm to be fine. I normally finish drinking caffeine at around noon. Just 5 is my hard cutoff no matter what.
I dont know about the jogging prior to bed. Jogging amps me up and gets my mind fired up. But it may help some folks, so it's worth a try for others.
I dont know about the jogging prior to bed. Jogging amps me up and gets my mind fired up. But it may help some folks, so it's worth a try for others.
>I dont know about the jogging prior to bed.
Really easy jogging, it saturates your blood with oxygen, and because your body just burns the carbohydrates you can sleep much better afterwards....but really just 10 minutes easy jogging.
Really easy jogging, it saturates your blood with oxygen, and because your body just burns the carbohydrates you can sleep much better afterwards....but really just 10 minutes easy jogging.
Nap-Shaming...what a ridiculous word, must be one of those US problems no one else has.
> must be one of those US problems no one else has.
More like "must be one of those made-up problems which we'll try to launch into actionability", I don't think the USA has a different attitude towards siesta than e.g. north-western Europe.
More like "must be one of those made-up problems which we'll try to launch into actionability", I don't think the USA has a different attitude towards siesta than e.g. north-western Europe.
>I don't think the USA has a different attitude towards siesta than e.g. north-western Europe.
True, i correct myself:
One of those problems the US-Press has and any other western Press too.
True, i correct myself:
One of those problems the US-Press has and any other western Press too.
Agreed. It's a stupid buzz word used by the attention seekers. Nobody nap shames.
Unrelated to napping <xyz>-shaming is a tired US culture issue. Someone will always have an issue with something you do or have, the sooner you find strength and shrug it off the better off you will be.
Up next: Pacifiers help 45% of stressed adults to cope anxiety, says study.
The New York Times is on it.
The reason why some of the largest ever companies in the world have sleep pods at work is because there's a direct relationship between sleep and performance.
> sleep and performance.
And well being / health in general
And well being / health in general
But sleep must be contiguous, nap power (20 minutes) are effective only if your employee doesn't have a healthy sleep schedule
20 minutes is plenty to perk you up in the afternoon (different parts of the brain rest in different ways), and it's not a sign of an unhealthy sleep schedule. This stigma has got to stop.
Only if you have bad sleep schedule. Or bad sleep out of your control (eg apnea). Or insomnia. Or DPSD. Or a chronic condition. Or ADHD. Or...
Many people are in at least one of the bins that benefit from naps.
Many people are in at least one of the bins that benefit from naps.
Have a chronic illness. Can’t make it 8 hours through a day.
Laying down 20-40 minutes is enough to be effective in the afternoon.
My choices are work from home and a daily “long lunch” or be homeless.
Laying down 20-40 minutes is enough to be effective in the afternoon.
My choices are work from home and a daily “long lunch” or be homeless.
Illness and physiological issues are obviously an exception, no?
One would think, except managers don’t care. If you can’t fully recover in a couple of weeks they start looking for reasons to get rid of you.
You learn to hide symptoms as best as possible. Be antisocial on bad days so people Don’t notice how much your struggling.
You learn to hide symptoms as best as possible. Be antisocial on bad days so people Don’t notice how much your struggling.
This is very true. For me I have found staying away from HFCS after 6:30, and eating very light. Staying away from anything with caffeine in it for the same time too. Getting to sleep at the same time every night. My diet played a large part of my sleeping well. I have asked others in my family to try the same thing and they have seen similar results. The caffeine bit was a big one. Its effects linger for a long time even though you get little to no benefit from it.
a.k.a. anyone with kids.
That cycle works for many people of course, and for them life is easy. The world is modelled after them. But for everyone else it sucks. This covers both napping as this article discusses, but also other "chronotypes" both earlier and later (i.e., "night owls"). For these people they have to either force themselves into the "early bird" cycle (often by strict working hours or social pressure) and suffer for it, or go against it and find either flexible employment or even move to night-shift work if their chronotype is sufficiently late.