Millions Flock to Telegram and Signal as Fears Grow over Big Tech(nytimes.com)
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Millions Flock to Telegram and Signal as Fears Grow over Big Tech
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-big-tech.html
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I really hope this doesn’t cause issues for telegram. I have years of chat history and tens of friends that I don’t know outside of telegram.
"Posts circulating on Telegram, the online ecosystem of choice among militant neo-Nazis, urge followers to locate the addresses of politicians in Congress and assassinate them."
Vice is already trying to label Telegram as a haven for Neo-Nazis, which it probably isn't. Or isn't any more than Signal, FB or anything else for that matter.
The issue is the government will use this as a means to crackdown on protests, private messaging apps and others things we've enjoyed for decades.
Vice is already trying to label Telegram as a haven for Neo-Nazis, which it probably isn't. Or isn't any more than Signal, FB or anything else for that matter.
The issue is the government will use this as a means to crackdown on protests, private messaging apps and others things we've enjoyed for decades.
>Vice is already trying to label Telegram as a haven for Neo-Nazis, which it probably isn't.
If you mean they actively encourage or court neo-Nazis, no. But a place where they congregate and communicate, then it certainly is, because they've been blocked from most other platforms.
It's not a coincidence that places with little to no moderation like parler, voat, 4chan, 8chan, various subreddits before reddit decided to crack down, etc. are flooded with these people. It happens over and over again and is entirely predictable.
Your point about the potential for government restriction is valid, but the reality is that if these platforms are predictably flooded with bigotry and violence and don't have a plan for dealing with it, it's very likely that eventually a plan will be imposed on them. It's a complicated issue, one that unfortunately Hacker News handles discussion of very poorly.
If you mean they actively encourage or court neo-Nazis, no. But a place where they congregate and communicate, then it certainly is, because they've been blocked from most other platforms.
It's not a coincidence that places with little to no moderation like parler, voat, 4chan, 8chan, various subreddits before reddit decided to crack down, etc. are flooded with these people. It happens over and over again and is entirely predictable.
Your point about the potential for government restriction is valid, but the reality is that if these platforms are predictably flooded with bigotry and violence and don't have a plan for dealing with it, it's very likely that eventually a plan will be imposed on them. It's a complicated issue, one that unfortunately Hacker News handles discussion of very poorly.
Told you Facebook is used by mom and dad. No escape now even under signal.
Not exactly related to Telegram, but I wonder: how much can the government encourage deplatforming without violating the first amendment?
And is Telegram more like a newspaper, a classified ad section, a phone system, a bathroom wall, or something else entirely?
And is Telegram more like a newspaper, a classified ad section, a phone system, a bathroom wall, or something else entirely?
In a move that shouldn't (but will) surprise, Telegram has started removing groups right wing groups.
If people report them probably Telegram will just remove them. Its easily fixable by turning the groups private.
Why would this be expected, in your opinion?
Not sure HN likes rumour mill stuff, but the chatter on Twitter is that Trump was about to make a Gab AI account until Kushner told him not to.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/88adm4/neo-nazis-ask-militar...
I wouldn't be surprised to see Telegram start cleaning house as well when the eye of Sauron rightfully turns on them.