Rare chunks of Earth's mantle found exposed in Maryland(nationalgeographic.com)
nationalgeographic.com
Rare chunks of Earth's mantle found exposed in Maryland
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/rare-chunks-of-earths-mantle-found-exposed-in-maryland
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National Geographic has been driving me crazy with this email popup. I won't be giving them my email, so sadly I will not be reading any National Geographic articles.
Tangent: I used to subscribe to the mag for years.
I was getting steadily more frustrated with the shift towards US domestic content and away from nature and the world, but I there was still good stuff in there and I was a big fan of sponsoring the research and exploration.
Then they sold to Murdoch, and so my subscription was no longer fuelling the research and exploration stuff, so I stopped in disgust.
Still miss what I remember of the 'good old days'.
I was getting steadily more frustrated with the shift towards US domestic content and away from nature and the world, but I there was still good stuff in there and I was a big fan of sponsoring the research and exploration.
Then they sold to Murdoch, and so my subscription was no longer fuelling the research and exploration stuff, so I stopped in disgust.
Still miss what I remember of the 'good old days'.
My Grandmother had a subscription to the mag going back to the mid 1960s, I read all of them, and it enriched my childhood. The online experience has always sucked, but in different ways over the years.
20 Yrs ago my brother bought 2 years worth of magazines from the kabadi bazar* in India it was a treasure trove. I was thinking of subscribing a few days back but based on what people are saying here I am wondering if I should buy old stuff from ebay instead.
* You sell old newspaper and magazines by the kilo in India for recycling, sometimes they make their way to a huge market where people are selling old stuff in a huge market called Kabadi bazar think of it like a pawn shops fair every Sunday.
* You sell old newspaper and magazines by the kilo in India for recycling, sometimes they make their way to a huge market where people are selling old stuff in a huge market called Kabadi bazar think of it like a pawn shops fair every Sunday.
Great idea to find old ones. They were often very interesting and much less political.
I subscribed to the iPad version for a while, it was beautiful imho, though this was a few years ago.
What?? I had no idea they were bought by Murdoch.
They're not, at least not now. The TV arm used to be part of 21st Century Fox from 2015-2017, but...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Geographic_Partners
Disney owns 73%. The National Geographic Society owns 27%.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Geographic_Partners
Disney owns 73%. The National Geographic Society owns 27%.
I remember it becoming more and more about environmental issues, when Murdoch bought it did they change?
I've had a subscription for decades - I can't see a shift toward what I genuinely expected when Murdoch bought it. Yes, they focus more on US issues than in the past, but I have to assume that is where their market is. But environmental issues and nature conservation are still very prominent in the publication.
Agree entirely. I dropped my subscription around the same time as you, by the sound of it.
Thanks for the heads up ... didn't know that and will act accordingly.
Verify the claim first. (It's not true.)
Rupert Murdoch owns 21st Century Fox, which brought the magazine in 2015 for $725M.
Disney bought 21st Century Fox from Murdoch two years later.
His ownership was very brief. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquisition_of_21st_Century_Fo...
No need to cancel a subscription over old news.
His ownership was very brief. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquisition_of_21st_Century_Fo...
No need to cancel a subscription over old news.
So the money raised by the sale of magazines now goes to research and exploration again?
The National Geographic Society still exists, yes, and makes money off the partnership with Disney. Their current programs are listed at https://www.nationalgeographic.org/projects/programs/.
Is there any proof it ever stopped?
If you're boycotting something based on false rumors you read on an Internet forum, I'm not sure how you buy anything.
Hey, I heard that Kim Jong-un bought out all the world's watermelon farms, so every time you buy a watermelon you're contributing to the oppression of North Koreans!
Hey, I heard that Kim Jong-un bought out all the world's watermelon farms, so every time you buy a watermelon you're contributing to the oppression of North Koreans!
That's a lot of words to say: "the OP is incorrect". But I appreciate your concern.
And, so there is some factual outcome or use to this thread, I'd like to add that I'm looking forward to Murdoch rotting in actual, or metaphorical, hell.
You're welcome.
And, so there is some factual outcome or use to this thread, I'd like to add that I'm looking forward to Murdoch rotting in actual, or metaphorical, hell.
You're welcome.
The OP isn't boycotting anything, he's signalling.
> Then they sold to Murdoch, and so my subscription was no longer fuelling the research and exploration stuff, so I stopped in disgust.
Is there any proof of the funding part? I find it hard to believe they would partner with Fox for years before forming the joint venture, not get anything out of the partnership, and then form a joint venture and get even less.
Is there any proof of the funding part? I find it hard to believe they would partner with Fox for years before forming the joint venture, not get anything out of the partnership, and then form a joint venture and get even less.
I personally just use support@ emails. There's a good chance it opens up a support ticket and slightly annoys someone. you could also use [email protected] to really tick them off.
It's sad Disney has to stoop this low.
It's sad Disney has to stoop this low.
Yep! But really if you want to stick it to them just look at their contact or privacy policy and you should get a real email.
Just hit F12 and paste this into the console when they ask for it
document.querySelector('.Modal').remove();
document.body.classList.remove('Scroll--locked');
document.body.style.overflow="scroll";
document.body.style.position="static";Nice. I've been finding myself using the F12 tools more and more recently to tweak websites I use often - say to change the background colour or font. Not a web dev, but it's fun to look under the hood and play about with things.
I can't even dismiss the modal:
> "Sorry, this campaign is not available in your area"
Then why in the seven seas do you even produce the blasted popup ?
> "Sorry, this campaign is not available in your area"
Then why in the seven seas do you even produce the blasted popup ?
I just came here to complain about that! It's the most obnoxious popup, ffs at least show it at the start so I don't waste my time on 1/5 of an article.
Ublock origin + lightning bolt!
I am sorry but is lightning bolt some extension?
It is an element zapper built into ublock origin. Useful for permanently getting rid of annoying pop up dialogs.
no it's the "quick picker" or "zapping mode" of ublock origin. very handy!
I'm using Bypass Paywalls specifically for this.
As it turns out, "signing up" with "[email protected]" worked just fine for me.
... With apologies to whoever owns shit.com.
... With apologies to whoever owns shit.com.
Just press reader view.
I understand the annoyance, but I really hope the parent comment does not remain the top comment on this post. I hope that would be related to the content, not the issues around its presentation.
For anyone who needs it, both the source material and an alternate link have been posted as top-level comments.
For anyone who needs it, both the source material and an alternate link have been posted as top-level comments.
A better OP would be just the source material. HN could take a page out of r/science's book in this regard and just outright ban secondary sources.
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If you disable Javascript, it seems to still load the full article, and doesn't break formatting.
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I'll give an annoying popup/paywalled page one chance by trying reader mode, which often works. I'm extremely rarely motivated enough to bother trying any harder than that to read an article the publisher is actively working against me being able to read.
I didn't even consider reader mode to be honest. I've been using the disable-javascript thing for so long it's become the automatic go-to when I get such popups.
Plus if you're decent with the inspector, you can usually remove the paywall and then if the body doesn't scroll find the Event Listener for `onscroll` and kill that; it almost always is just a simple fn preventing scroll events
On this National Geographics page, in the inspector just select the <body> and in the CSS pane remove the "position: fixed" and "overflow: hidden". This allows scrolling.
A lot of websites do that, the Kill Sticky button always saves me https://github.com/t-mart/kill-sticky
you can always type in [email protected] and it isn't verified.
Don't make up domain names for this. Always use example.com
Why it has to be meaningful words? Why not [email protected]? :-)
or <vulgar>@<vulgar.tld>
Awesome trick. Thanks!
I don't see the popu. But I do see an advertisement every 1.5 screens I scroll down. Extremely annoying. Article itself isn't bad though
This kind of comment chain helps me remember how amazing uBlock Origin is. I don't see the popup or the inline adverts, and uBlock just works without breaking the site. Amazing.
It just works so well, in fact, that I forget it is there at all, and I am glad to occasionally get these reminders.
It just works so well, in fact, that I forget it is there at all, and I am glad to occasionally get these reminders.
I just use a random user and a domain that resolves to local host. I'm not sure how their MTA will deal with it though.
Just type a random email in the box. This is basic debugging knowledge.
How is providing a fake email "debugging"... ?
I use ublock origin and disable javascript for the session.
>.>
I wrote: whoeversethisupgof**[email protected]
and it worked! :)
I wrote: whoeversethisupgof**[email protected]
and it worked! :)
What email popup ?
... perhaps you are using some browser that isn't Firefox and/or you not have uBlock installed ?
... perhaps you are using some browser that isn't Firefox and/or you not have uBlock installed ?
Here’s the journal article upon which the NG article is based. https://pubs.geoscienceworld.org/gsa/geosphere/article/17/2/...
Really glad to see people have started to blacklist publications instead of offering workarounds ("Use an anonymous window!" "Toggle off Javascript!")
There really is no excuse to treat your customers/readers/viewers like that (edit: especially when you have Disney money)
Maybe if enough of us give up on them they'll learn and we'll turn "marketing" on its axis
There really is no excuse to treat your customers/readers/viewers like that (edit: especially when you have Disney money)
Maybe if enough of us give up on them they'll learn and we'll turn "marketing" on its axis
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I assume this is related to the "Enter your email to read this article" popup?
As an aside, I used to work on a technical team that handled things like that on a relatively high-traffic website. I was told at the time that the rough "going rate" for an email address entered this way was $20.
This specifically always makes me wish that some kind of advertising revenue share would catch on and make this kind of thing feel like a win-win rather than feel as though I'm being exploited.
This specifically always makes me wish that some kind of advertising revenue share would catch on and make this kind of thing feel like a win-win rather than feel as though I'm being exploited.
Nag-free link: https://archive.today/bJlRf
This may hit you with a Google captcha that is a worse nag — on the submitted web page, at least, you can type in whatever you want in the box instead of becoming a computer trainer for a few moments.
I thought archive.today only uses a captcha when saving a snapshot of a page, not when viewing a given snapshot, which would mean GP's link wouldn't hit you with a captcha.
I saw a captcha when I clicked on it, so this is not always true.
Thanks, good to know that my assumption was incorrect.
That email popup is obnoxious UI. I really might never visit their site ever again. It's that bad.
Same, I don’t negotiate with ad terrorists.
This is a placeholder for substantive commentary about the article contents...
...rather than complaints about Natty Geo's business model (and asking for an email address).
The latter complaints are obvious and uninteresting, and are not unique to Natty Geo.
I'm not categorically against such commentary, but it is not useful if they dominate the commentary here.
The former is interesting because it is relevant to the -content- of the article -- or the underling study if you prefer to read that.
https://pubs.geoscienceworld.org/gsa/geosphere/article/17/2/...
...rather than complaints about Natty Geo's business model (and asking for an email address).
The latter complaints are obvious and uninteresting, and are not unique to Natty Geo.
I'm not categorically against such commentary, but it is not useful if they dominate the commentary here.
The former is interesting because it is relevant to the -content- of the article -- or the underling study if you prefer to read that.
https://pubs.geoscienceworld.org/gsa/geosphere/article/17/2/...
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Interesting!
> the landscape undergo a remarkable change. The greenery shifted from a variety of leafy trees and plants to barren grassy fields rimed with stunted oak and pine. The difference in vegetation reflected a change in the underlying geology, evincing rocks with excess magnesium and too little calcium for most plants to thrive. We had driven onto the mantle.
> the landscape undergo a remarkable change. The greenery shifted from a variety of leafy trees and plants to barren grassy fields rimed with stunted oak and pine. The difference in vegetation reflected a change in the underlying geology, evincing rocks with excess magnesium and too little calcium for most plants to thrive. We had driven onto the mantle.
I wish the article had more photos - from the one it looks like it could be an awesome rock climbing area
When I was a kid the magazine was all about the photos. Online NatGeo doesn't get it. They're not getting my email address either.
Oh they get it. But good photos require sometimes multiple talented photogs and a support team. These are expensive. Their cashflow was on the decline, because nobody buys magazines anymore. Magazines had a higher profit margin than online impressions, until they didn't anymore.
Nobody's paying, nobody's funding expeditions or in-depth research.
Race to the bottom! Last one there wins ... somehow.
Nobody's paying, nobody's funding expeditions or in-depth research.
Race to the bottom! Last one there wins ... somehow.
Soldiers Delight is a preservation area, so the rangers won't be pleased if you go off the trail there, nor should they be - I expect the researchers had to clear their visit in advance. But there are plenty of formations around here similar to the one in the article photo; I feel like you'd have a harder time finding a state park without them, than with.
Who needs to mine Eth or Bitcoin when I can go mine some real ROCKS!!!!!!
LIKE A REAL MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIKE A REAL MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!
If anyone else is curious, the oldest rocks found are about 8 times older than what is discussed in the article.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldest_dated_rocks
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldest_dated_rocks
Baldemor represen'!