Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago(phys.org)
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Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago
https://phys.org/news/2021-07-cannabis-domesticated-years.html
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While I actually do believe in the Dryas impact hypothesis myself, there is definitely quite a bit of stigma surrounding the idea, especially since controversal figures like Graham Hancock have embraced it.
While I think a lot of his ideas are pretty out there, I do agree with him that I would need substantially more evidence than there actually is for concluding that civilisation really is only 6000-10000 years old. Modern humans have been around for more than 10 times that length and our actual fossil records are incredibly spotty.
While I think a lot of his ideas are pretty out there, I do agree with him that I would need substantially more evidence than there actually is for concluding that civilisation really is only 6000-10000 years old. Modern humans have been around for more than 10 times that length and our actual fossil records are incredibly spotty.
On my todo list for a while has been to dig down to see if I can find the "black mat".
Thanks for posting this, never heard of the event. PBS has a Youtube channel called "Eons" (seems cool)- I watched their video about it and found it super interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95u2sk_lRoQ
I also generally think the idea of a recently linear progression of human collaboration and advancement is misguided
I think fossilization is merely rare and difficult
I think fossilization is merely rare and difficult
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I don’t know much about the Dryas impact theory, but skimming the second link it seems to really emphasize the Americas? Should it be matched with data from China like in the main article?
I love reading about this. I hope one day we will understand what happened back then.
In Hawaiian mythology, there is a creation chant[1] that includes names of the purported parents of 800 generations; after those 800 generations, there is an interesting interim passage describing an event:
Line 1530: "Born was Polaʻa/ Born was rough weather, born the current/ Born the roaring, advancing, and receding of waves, the rumbling sound, the earthquake/ The sea rages, rises over the beach/ Rises silently to the inhabited places/ Rises gradually up over the land/"
It's notable because the previous 800 lines are nothing but names of husband and wife; it must have been a big event to get mentioned as such. I'm sure there are other similar stories in the oral tradition. I wonder if anyone has ever compared them all. I hope one day more geological and archeological evidence can connect all these threads.
[1]http://www.ulukau.org/elib/cgi-bin/library?e=d-0beckwit2-000...
In Hawaiian mythology, there is a creation chant[1] that includes names of the purported parents of 800 generations; after those 800 generations, there is an interesting interim passage describing an event:
Line 1530: "Born was Polaʻa/ Born was rough weather, born the current/ Born the roaring, advancing, and receding of waves, the rumbling sound, the earthquake/ The sea rages, rises over the beach/ Rises silently to the inhabited places/ Rises gradually up over the land/"
It's notable because the previous 800 lines are nothing but names of husband and wife; it must have been a big event to get mentioned as such. I'm sure there are other similar stories in the oral tradition. I wonder if anyone has ever compared them all. I hope one day more geological and archeological evidence can connect all these threads.
[1]http://www.ulukau.org/elib/cgi-bin/library?e=d-0beckwit2-000...
The criticism section of the second article puts strong doubts about the impact hypothesis.
Surely there were sudden drop in average temperatures in the Northern hemisphere, but we do not know what triggered it.
Surely there were sudden drop in average temperatures in the Northern hemisphere, but we do not know what triggered it.
Ironic that the penalty for cannabis possession goes up to death now in the place where it was first domesticated. Death for having a plant that makes people feel good and happy. Humans are weird.
This study is really neat because as the article says the consensus was always Central Asia for the birthplace of cannabis and now we learn that it is East Asia.
This study is really neat because as the article says the consensus was always Central Asia for the birthplace of cannabis and now we learn that it is East Asia.
"Death for having a plant that makes people feel good and happy. Humans are weird."
It's not just about feeling good (though that can be threat enough for some authorities -- dancing bans[1], for example).. Cannabis can have psychedelic effects at high doses, and has been used for religious and sacramental purposes (there has been speculation that cannabis was part of the anointing oil used in the bible, and perhaps in some of the biblical incenses used for religious purposes).
Secular and religious authorities have historically wanted to be in control of what people feel, believe, and think.. so when a plant can alter that or is believed to provide a direct route to communing with a diety or the spirit world instead of relying on the authorities to tell them what to believe or think, then it's easily seen as a threat.
In the US cannabis use was also associated with the counterculture, with the antiwar movement, and with anti-authoritarian sentiment, and with minorities.. all seen as threats to the establishment.
[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_ban
It's not just about feeling good (though that can be threat enough for some authorities -- dancing bans[1], for example).. Cannabis can have psychedelic effects at high doses, and has been used for religious and sacramental purposes (there has been speculation that cannabis was part of the anointing oil used in the bible, and perhaps in some of the biblical incenses used for religious purposes).
Secular and religious authorities have historically wanted to be in control of what people feel, believe, and think.. so when a plant can alter that or is believed to provide a direct route to communing with a diety or the spirit world instead of relying on the authorities to tell them what to believe or think, then it's easily seen as a threat.
In the US cannabis use was also associated with the counterculture, with the antiwar movement, and with anti-authoritarian sentiment, and with minorities.. all seen as threats to the establishment.
[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_ban
In the US it was that cannabis users were likely to not vote for Nixon in the next election.
If they can't vote, they can't kick Nixon out of power
If they can't vote, they can't kick Nixon out of power
It's inconcievable to me to think that enprisonment in the US forfeits one's right to vote. Such a twisted flavor of democracy. "Everyone is equal except those who have made a mistake."
Death penalty for "possession"? Did you mean trafficking? Here [1] it says,
> according to the Law on Public Security Administration Punishments, marijuana smokers shall be detained for 10 to 15 days and fined a maximum of 2,000 yuan.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_China#Legal_status
> according to the Law on Public Security Administration Punishments, marijuana smokers shall be detained for 10 to 15 days and fined a maximum of 2,000 yuan.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_China#Legal_status
I just meant possessing something in the normal sense not the legal sense. I don’t think death is a good penalty for something as benign as marijuana.
I'm all for legalization of marijuana but we can do better than the naïve and shallow argument of "it's a plant so it's good for me". Opium and Salvia? Poison berries and cocaine?
The person you're responding too seems to have gone out of their way to specify what effects it has, not just that it's a plant.
So glad to see more genomic research around cannabis. I have a jar full of seeds from my late grandfather. He said it was from the same hemp that the Constitution was written on. Doubt the truth behind that but it’d be really cool if one day I could have it analyzed and compared for relatively cheap.
It is a common urban legend that the constitution was written on hemp, but not true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Constitution_hemp_paper_h...
Right. Which is why I don't fully believe my late grandfather. However, it would be nice to know if the strain I have has a direct lineage of the hemp grown during the Colony days.
The paper mentions that the Colonies first started growing European hemp varieties but by the mid 1800s had largely switched to (more recently) Chinese origin hemp varieties. I hope your grandfather's seeds are original Colony day seeds and you get to find out some day for a low cost but based on this paper, chances are that it isn't :(.
I heard the original one was rolled and smoked, so they had to start again. Hence the current constitution.
Link to the paper directly- https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/7/29/eabg2286
Since this is the first cannabis topic I've seen on HN, I have lots of questions/ideas/problems I want to share. I'm going to post them in no particular order. Maybe someone has a solution
>I like weed as a productive drug, it's stronger than caffeine for me, but I develop tolerance and addiction quickly. Any solution to the tolerance problem? Quitting/breaks is obvious.
>Is investing in weed stocks encouraging drug addiction/use? Is it ethical to promote drug use?
>Is there a way to microdose? I'd like to be able to have tiny, controlled amounts every time.
>Is there a solution to munchies?
>Has anyone been able to convince a fortune 500 company that they need(medical) marijuana for work? As mentioned I'm significantly more focused, but I don't like the social stigma. I already have the job, it's purely a cultural/social problem.
> Are my memory problems due to weed or is this just age? (When not using) I feel like I've lost lots of childhood memories and I have more difficulty than ever with names.
>If my focus is better on weed, is there something else I can do for focus that isn't drug related?
>I like weed as a productive drug, it's stronger than caffeine for me, but I develop tolerance and addiction quickly. Any solution to the tolerance problem? Quitting/breaks is obvious.
>Is investing in weed stocks encouraging drug addiction/use? Is it ethical to promote drug use?
>Is there a way to microdose? I'd like to be able to have tiny, controlled amounts every time.
>Is there a solution to munchies?
>Has anyone been able to convince a fortune 500 company that they need(medical) marijuana for work? As mentioned I'm significantly more focused, but I don't like the social stigma. I already have the job, it's purely a cultural/social problem.
> Are my memory problems due to weed or is this just age? (When not using) I feel like I've lost lots of childhood memories and I have more difficulty than ever with names.
>If my focus is better on weed, is there something else I can do for focus that isn't drug related?
> Any solution to the tolerance problem?
Cycle between different drugs. When you develop tolerance for one, switch to another.
> Is there a way to microdose? I'd like to be able to have tiny, controlled amounts every time.
Get a small vaporizer with degree-exact temperature control. Varying the temp even by 5 degrees between 175..230 degrees celsius produces very different types of high. Lower temperatures vaporize more CBD and less THC, leading to more body glow, while higher temps do the opposite and go to your head. Also, you don't have to inhale smoke and the dose is easier to control.
> Is there a solution to munchies?
...Eat more?
> Are my memory problems due to weed or is this just age? (When not using) I feel like I've lost lots of childhood memories and I have more difficulty than ever with names.
Weed unlocked childhood memories I didn't remember having. But it also makes me draw blank, i.e. completely forget the train of thought or conversation. I think it's a strength/power, allowing you to discard useless memories.
Cycle between different drugs. When you develop tolerance for one, switch to another.
> Is there a way to microdose? I'd like to be able to have tiny, controlled amounts every time.
Get a small vaporizer with degree-exact temperature control. Varying the temp even by 5 degrees between 175..230 degrees celsius produces very different types of high. Lower temperatures vaporize more CBD and less THC, leading to more body glow, while higher temps do the opposite and go to your head. Also, you don't have to inhale smoke and the dose is easier to control.
> Is there a solution to munchies?
...Eat more?
> Are my memory problems due to weed or is this just age? (When not using) I feel like I've lost lots of childhood memories and I have more difficulty than ever with names.
Weed unlocked childhood memories I didn't remember having. But it also makes me draw blank, i.e. completely forget the train of thought or conversation. I think it's a strength/power, allowing you to discard useless memories.
As far as easy ways to microdose, obviously there are options such as chillums, but I personally love and use vaporizers. Very convenient, much less smell, and uses very little product. I'd recommend /r/vaporents if you are interested in learning more.
>Is there a way to microdose? I'd like to be able to have tiny, controlled amounts every time.
-vaporizing and less potent weed
>Is there a solution to munchies? -from my experience they go away at some point. You still have the from time to time but much less often.
>If my focus is better on weed, is there something else I can do for focus that isn't drug related? -meditation
>Is there a solution to munchies? -from my experience they go away at some point. You still have the from time to time but much less often.
>If my focus is better on weed, is there something else I can do for focus that isn't drug related? -meditation
>I like weed as a productive drug, it's stronger than caffeine for me, but I develop tolerance and addiction quickly. Any solution to the tolerance problem? Quitting/breaks is obvious.
This is not something I've solved but are you consuming large amounts? I can stay high for months on end, using every hour and while it's not going to hit me like the first hit, I say up. I'd like to be more regular in consumption (every 4 hours), but your guess is as good as mine
>Is investing in weed stocks encouraging drug addiction/use? Is it ethical to promote drug use?
Is investing in any US-based company encouraging war? Is investing in any company that uses Chinese production promoting slavery? Caffeine is a drug. We take lots of drugs. We are in the infancy of understanding many of them because we're young and because we've been prudes.
I'd rather see companies and people I'd trust pushing and producing drug products of any kind rather than abusers. You can see this happening in the hemp adjacent markets - lots and lots of shady fly by night companies have popped up but slowly the good ones are rising to the top. 3chi, for example is a popular and I think solid d8 company.
But as I told my dad, every single person that was selling pot on the street is trying to get into the drug business and has been for more than a decade...good luck picking winners.
>Has anyone been able to convince a fortune 500 company that they need(medical) marijuana for work? As mentioned I'm significantly more focused, but I don't like the social stigma. I already have the job, it's purely a cultural/social problem.
> Are my memory problems due to weed or is this just age? (When not using) I feel like I've lost lots of childhood memories and I have more difficulty than ever with names.
This is my main concern (and lung damange). I do notice lapses in short-term memory (though I am high when this happens, I haven't noticed a huge drop). The literature sugests it's relatively small over decades IIRC. Willie Nelson and Snoop (sample of 2) are doing ok.
>If my focus is better on weed, is there something else I can do for focus that isn't drug related?
Get off HN. ;)
This is not something I've solved but are you consuming large amounts? I can stay high for months on end, using every hour and while it's not going to hit me like the first hit, I say up. I'd like to be more regular in consumption (every 4 hours), but your guess is as good as mine
>Is investing in weed stocks encouraging drug addiction/use? Is it ethical to promote drug use?
Is investing in any US-based company encouraging war? Is investing in any company that uses Chinese production promoting slavery? Caffeine is a drug. We take lots of drugs. We are in the infancy of understanding many of them because we're young and because we've been prudes.
I'd rather see companies and people I'd trust pushing and producing drug products of any kind rather than abusers. You can see this happening in the hemp adjacent markets - lots and lots of shady fly by night companies have popped up but slowly the good ones are rising to the top. 3chi, for example is a popular and I think solid d8 company.
But as I told my dad, every single person that was selling pot on the street is trying to get into the drug business and has been for more than a decade...good luck picking winners.
>Has anyone been able to convince a fortune 500 company that they need(medical) marijuana for work? As mentioned I'm significantly more focused, but I don't like the social stigma. I already have the job, it's purely a cultural/social problem.
> Are my memory problems due to weed or is this just age? (When not using) I feel like I've lost lots of childhood memories and I have more difficulty than ever with names.
This is my main concern (and lung damange). I do notice lapses in short-term memory (though I am high when this happens, I haven't noticed a huge drop). The literature sugests it's relatively small over decades IIRC. Willie Nelson and Snoop (sample of 2) are doing ok.
>If my focus is better on weed, is there something else I can do for focus that isn't drug related?
Get off HN. ;)
Caffeine is a drug. We take lots of drugs. We are in the infancy of understanding many of them because we're young and because we've been prudes.
Personally, I don't think it's going to be all that long before society's mental model of cannabis is fully turned on it's head from where it was 20 years ago. The dose makes the poison (or drug), after all.
Fundamentally, I see cannabinoids as less like alcohol, and more like a potential new category of vitamin. As we continue to learn more about the endocannabinoid system and build up increasing experimental evidence tying common maladies to endocannabinoid deficiencies, I see cannabinoid supplements eventually becoming as commonplace as e.g. B-complex and incorporated into mainstream multivitamins.
Going back to GP's questions:
Is there a way to microdose? I'd like to be able to have tiny, controlled amounts every time.
Tinctures/oils. Sublingual absorption is the next best thing to pulmonary absorption in terms of efficiency, but it won't cause long-term damage as inhaling hot ashes and gases might, and it'll allow you to measure the dose down to the mg.
Is there a solution to munchies?
Speaking for myself, I've been microdosing 200mg of Sunsoil full-spectrum CBD oil and 50mg of 3Chi delta-8-THC oil first thing in the morning and before bed since around the end of April.
This helps with both my sleep quality/consistency and preventing semi-regular headaches that had been causing an unhealthy reliance on NSAIDs. It doesn't cause a high or any noticeable psychoactive effect.
However, rather than "munchies", it's actually significantly reduced my appetite. Without any other deliberate change to my routine, such as calorie counting/restriction, I've dropped from 210 to 186 over the past 2.5 months with no perceptible loss in muscle strength or mass, and so far see no signs of the trend stopping before I reach my goal BF%. (I use the term "deliberate" because, although I am currently only eating one meal per day around lunch - dinner time, it isn't an intentional IF/OMAD schedule; it's just the current limit of my appetite.)
That being said, I can't definitively attribute this effect to a particular compound. It could be the delta8, it could be the CBD, it could be a different cannabinoid, it could be the interactions between some or all of them, it could be the 200 calories of MCT oil that I'm now ingesting each day (on top of what I was already taking separately pre-workout), and/or it could be the interactions of any or all of the above with the fact that I've been keto for over nine years. YMMV.
Personally, I don't think it's going to be all that long before society's mental model of cannabis is fully turned on it's head from where it was 20 years ago. The dose makes the poison (or drug), after all.
Fundamentally, I see cannabinoids as less like alcohol, and more like a potential new category of vitamin. As we continue to learn more about the endocannabinoid system and build up increasing experimental evidence tying common maladies to endocannabinoid deficiencies, I see cannabinoid supplements eventually becoming as commonplace as e.g. B-complex and incorporated into mainstream multivitamins.
Going back to GP's questions:
Is there a way to microdose? I'd like to be able to have tiny, controlled amounts every time.
Tinctures/oils. Sublingual absorption is the next best thing to pulmonary absorption in terms of efficiency, but it won't cause long-term damage as inhaling hot ashes and gases might, and it'll allow you to measure the dose down to the mg.
Is there a solution to munchies?
Speaking for myself, I've been microdosing 200mg of Sunsoil full-spectrum CBD oil and 50mg of 3Chi delta-8-THC oil first thing in the morning and before bed since around the end of April.
This helps with both my sleep quality/consistency and preventing semi-regular headaches that had been causing an unhealthy reliance on NSAIDs. It doesn't cause a high or any noticeable psychoactive effect.
However, rather than "munchies", it's actually significantly reduced my appetite. Without any other deliberate change to my routine, such as calorie counting/restriction, I've dropped from 210 to 186 over the past 2.5 months with no perceptible loss in muscle strength or mass, and so far see no signs of the trend stopping before I reach my goal BF%. (I use the term "deliberate" because, although I am currently only eating one meal per day around lunch - dinner time, it isn't an intentional IF/OMAD schedule; it's just the current limit of my appetite.)
That being said, I can't definitively attribute this effect to a particular compound. It could be the delta8, it could be the CBD, it could be a different cannabinoid, it could be the interactions between some or all of them, it could be the 200 calories of MCT oil that I'm now ingesting each day (on top of what I was already taking separately pre-workout), and/or it could be the interactions of any or all of the above with the fact that I've been keto for over nine years. YMMV.
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You must've missed this AskHN from yesterday https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27856934
I think you might find answers to half your questions there. And please ask your own AskHN with your questions, it's better than asking a lot of questions in a comment like this—AskHNs disappear off the radar a lot slower than news stories like this, and you probably will get a lot more answers.
I think you might find answers to half your questions there. And please ask your own AskHN with your questions, it's better than asking a lot of questions in a comment like this—AskHNs disappear off the radar a lot slower than news stories like this, and you probably will get a lot more answers.
Medicinal Chemist (and former cannabis consumer) here.
>I like weed as a productive drug, it's stronger than caffeine for me, but I develop tolerance...
Interestingly, I used to notice that once I became tolerant to one strain, over a couple weeks, switching to another strain could at least partially alleviate it.
This to me is fascinating. Psychoactive effects of cannabinoids are thought to be mediated by the CB1 receptor. Cannabis strains can vary strongly in their perceived effects. Are there subtypes of the CB1 receptor differentially activated by the various cannabinoids present at different levels in the strains? For instance CB1a and CB1b? I do not think this is known.
>If my focus is better on weed, is there something else I can do for focus that isn't drug related?
This sounds like a line from John Stewart in some stoner movie
>I like weed as a productive drug, it's stronger than caffeine for me, but I develop tolerance...
Interestingly, I used to notice that once I became tolerant to one strain, over a couple weeks, switching to another strain could at least partially alleviate it.
This to me is fascinating. Psychoactive effects of cannabinoids are thought to be mediated by the CB1 receptor. Cannabis strains can vary strongly in their perceived effects. Are there subtypes of the CB1 receptor differentially activated by the various cannabinoids present at different levels in the strains? For instance CB1a and CB1b? I do not think this is known.
>If my focus is better on weed, is there something else I can do for focus that isn't drug related?
This sounds like a line from John Stewart in some stoner movie
"In 1998, Professors Raphael Mechoulam and Shimon Ben-Shabat posited that the endocannabinoid system demonstrated an “entourage effect” in which a variety of “inactive” metabolites and closely related molecules markedly increased the activity of the primary endogenous cannabinoids, anandamide and 2-arachidonoylglycerol"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6334252/#:~:tex...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6334252/#:~:tex...
Here is my anecdata after being a regular user for 30+ years.
>I like weed as a productive drug, it's stronger than caffeine for me, but I develop tolerance and addiction quickly. Any solution to the tolerance problem? Quitting/breaks is obvious.
You have to limit your intake. It's really easy to over do it with pipes and bongs. You'll end up getting 10x as much as you need and blow your tolerance.
>Is investing in weed stocks encouraging drug addiction/use? Is it ethical to promote drug use?
No less ethical than investing in entertainment.
>Is there a way to microdose? I'd like to be able to have tiny, controlled amounts every time.
The best way is to use a vape pen and oil. Set a low wattage and then count x seconds while hitting it.
>Is there a solution to munchies?
Smoke less. It's a symptom of smoking too much. You feel more sober after eating. The hunger is your brain trying to get sober.
>Has anyone been able to convince a fortune 500 company that they need(medical) marijuana for work? As mentioned I'm significantly more focused, but I don't like the social stigma. I already have the job, it's purely a cultural/social problem.
Not fortune 500 but I've known multiple cancer patients where it was not as stigmatized.
> Are my memory problems due to weed or is this just age? (When not using) I feel like I've lost lots of childhood memories and I have more difficulty than ever with names.
Weed messes with your memory pretty significantly. If you were high when the memories formed you will struggle to remember them when not high. I learned how to play guitar while high and can't really play if I'm not. I'd need to spend a lot of time relearning how to play sober.
>If my focus is better on weed, is there something else I can do for focus that isn't drug related?
Competitive gaming. Join a clan.
>I like weed as a productive drug, it's stronger than caffeine for me, but I develop tolerance and addiction quickly. Any solution to the tolerance problem? Quitting/breaks is obvious.
You have to limit your intake. It's really easy to over do it with pipes and bongs. You'll end up getting 10x as much as you need and blow your tolerance.
>Is investing in weed stocks encouraging drug addiction/use? Is it ethical to promote drug use?
No less ethical than investing in entertainment.
>Is there a way to microdose? I'd like to be able to have tiny, controlled amounts every time.
The best way is to use a vape pen and oil. Set a low wattage and then count x seconds while hitting it.
>Is there a solution to munchies?
Smoke less. It's a symptom of smoking too much. You feel more sober after eating. The hunger is your brain trying to get sober.
>Has anyone been able to convince a fortune 500 company that they need(medical) marijuana for work? As mentioned I'm significantly more focused, but I don't like the social stigma. I already have the job, it's purely a cultural/social problem.
Not fortune 500 but I've known multiple cancer patients where it was not as stigmatized.
> Are my memory problems due to weed or is this just age? (When not using) I feel like I've lost lots of childhood memories and I have more difficulty than ever with names.
Weed messes with your memory pretty significantly. If you were high when the memories formed you will struggle to remember them when not high. I learned how to play guitar while high and can't really play if I'm not. I'd need to spend a lot of time relearning how to play sober.
>If my focus is better on weed, is there something else I can do for focus that isn't drug related?
Competitive gaming. Join a clan.
OP needs a loose leaf vaporizer, like the Pax.
> Is there a way to microdose? I'd like to be able to have tiny, controlled amounts every time.
I’m not sure if this is still considered microdose, but 5mg sativa edibles hit the sweet spot for me in terms of being productive for several hours and not being too high. YMMV
I’m not sure if this is still considered microdose, but 5mg sativa edibles hit the sweet spot for me in terms of being productive for several hours and not being too high. YMMV
I’ve also found edibles to be the best way to control dosing. Though in my case I’ve never found cannabis to be a productive drug - I mini-dosed for leisure only and to great effect.
Smoked weed every day for 10 years.
>I like weed as a productive drug, it's stronger than caffeine for me, but I develop tolerance and addiction quickly. Any solution to the tolerance problem? Quitting/breaks is obvious.
Switch strains frequently, try to find stuff far from the other.
>Is investing in weed stocks encouraging drug addiction/use? Is it ethical to promote drug use?
No, but also investing in weed stocks are probably not the best stocks you could invest in - that said: Invest in what you know!
>Is there a way to microdose? I'd like to be able to have tiny, controlled amounts every time.
Yes, but you'll have to take a huge long break to get your tolerance back down. Then make tea: https://www.thrillist.com/eat/nation/how-to-make-cannabis-te...
>Is there a solution to munchies?
Switch strains - tends to be more common in Indicas with a higher than normal CBD (or if you're into more "creative" solutions, low dose adderall with it, seems to balance out well in strains that cause munchies.)
>Has anyone been able to convince a fortune 500 company that they need(medical) marijuana for work? As mentioned I'm significantly more focused, but I don't like the social stigma. I already have the job, it's purely a cultural/social problem.
If you have a Drs note, there isn't much they can do.
> Are my memory problems due to weed or is this just age? (When not using) I feel like I've lost lots of childhood memories and I have more difficulty than ever with names.
I've read reports of this, I've anecdotally heard people say that - It's never been a problem for me (but aging certainly has)
>If my focus is better on weed, is there something else I can do for focus that isn't drug related?
Diaphragmatic breathing for 5 minutes when you find your mind wandering.
>I like weed as a productive drug, it's stronger than caffeine for me, but I develop tolerance and addiction quickly. Any solution to the tolerance problem? Quitting/breaks is obvious.
Switch strains frequently, try to find stuff far from the other.
>Is investing in weed stocks encouraging drug addiction/use? Is it ethical to promote drug use?
No, but also investing in weed stocks are probably not the best stocks you could invest in - that said: Invest in what you know!
>Is there a way to microdose? I'd like to be able to have tiny, controlled amounts every time.
Yes, but you'll have to take a huge long break to get your tolerance back down. Then make tea: https://www.thrillist.com/eat/nation/how-to-make-cannabis-te...
>Is there a solution to munchies?
Switch strains - tends to be more common in Indicas with a higher than normal CBD (or if you're into more "creative" solutions, low dose adderall with it, seems to balance out well in strains that cause munchies.)
>Has anyone been able to convince a fortune 500 company that they need(medical) marijuana for work? As mentioned I'm significantly more focused, but I don't like the social stigma. I already have the job, it's purely a cultural/social problem.
If you have a Drs note, there isn't much they can do.
> Are my memory problems due to weed or is this just age? (When not using) I feel like I've lost lots of childhood memories and I have more difficulty than ever with names.
I've read reports of this, I've anecdotally heard people say that - It's never been a problem for me (but aging certainly has)
>If my focus is better on weed, is there something else I can do for focus that isn't drug related?
Diaphragmatic breathing for 5 minutes when you find your mind wandering.
Overall I agree with your comments.
> Switch strains - tends to be more common in Indicas with a higher than normal CBD
There is no scientific evidence backing up any claims about the effects of indica vs sativa, and no way to know which strain you're actually getting, even from dispensaries. They tend to be labeled according to the subjective experience of the person deciding how to label them. It's as meaningless as any other marketing label.
> If you have a Drs note, there isn't much they can do.
There's no federal protection, and state protections vary. Some states explicitly prohibit firing employees for off-duty medical marijuana use, but not all states with medical marijuana regulations have formal employee use regulations, and I don't think any have protections for recreational use. Additionally, even where medical use protections exist, they don't cover you being intoxicated on the job. There will be court cases that clarify all of this; meanwhile there's no definitive answer.
> Switch strains - tends to be more common in Indicas with a higher than normal CBD
There is no scientific evidence backing up any claims about the effects of indica vs sativa, and no way to know which strain you're actually getting, even from dispensaries. They tend to be labeled according to the subjective experience of the person deciding how to label them. It's as meaningless as any other marketing label.
> If you have a Drs note, there isn't much they can do.
There's no federal protection, and state protections vary. Some states explicitly prohibit firing employees for off-duty medical marijuana use, but not all states with medical marijuana regulations have formal employee use regulations, and I don't think any have protections for recreational use. Additionally, even where medical use protections exist, they don't cover you being intoxicated on the job. There will be court cases that clarify all of this; meanwhile there's no definitive answer.
"There is no scientific evidence backing up any claims about the effects of indica vs sativa"
Though the research on this is also in its infancy, there has been speculation that the terpenes in cannabis play very important roles its effects.
I'm looking forward to the day when we can choose cannabis based on the various terpenes it contains, and not just on simplistic THC/CBD levels or indica/sativa distinctions.
Though the research on this is also in its infancy, there has been speculation that the terpenes in cannabis play very important roles its effects.
I'm looking forward to the day when we can choose cannabis based on the various terpenes it contains, and not just on simplistic THC/CBD levels or indica/sativa distinctions.
>There is no scientific evidence backing up any claims about the effects of indica vs sativa, and no way to know which strain you're actually getting, even from dispensaries.
Even if it's the same strain cloned from the previous crop it can be different in THC/CBD content depending on growing conditions and a number of things. Even the harvest date, the drying and the curing process will affect the final product.
Even if it's the same strain cloned from the previous crop it can be different in THC/CBD content depending on growing conditions and a number of things. Even the harvest date, the drying and the curing process will affect the final product.
I agree that there are different chemical constituents in different strains, that seem to--at least anecdotally--cause different subjective effects. I specifically take exception to the indica-vs-sativa claims, which appear to be complete nonsense, and aren't backed up by any science.
I was agreeing with you. I was just pointing out further, even exactly the same plant can have different chemical constituents based on a variety of things without even taking variations between different strains into account.
"If you have a Drs note, there isn't much they can do."
Many jobs require passing drug tests as a condition of employment.
It would be interesting to hear if anyone has challenged such tests by arguing their cannabis use was a medical necessity.
Many jobs require passing drug tests as a condition of employment.
It would be interesting to hear if anyone has challenged such tests by arguing their cannabis use was a medical necessity.
Drug tests are not specific to metabolites only from scheduled sources. Because unscheduled cannabidiols trigger drug tests the same way as scheduled ones, they are ineffective at identifying illegal use.
And yes, this gets challenged frequently since there's a legal concentration of ∆9 for products sold in the US naturally derived from hemp.
Generally, if you weren't caught in possession of something scheduled, not admitting to use when presented with a "positive" drug test is enough to have it dismissed.
And yes, this gets challenged frequently since there's a legal concentration of ∆9 for products sold in the US naturally derived from hemp.
Generally, if you weren't caught in possession of something scheduled, not admitting to use when presented with a "positive" drug test is enough to have it dismissed.
I worked with two different people that tried that. First guy crashed a forklift and was told he couldn't operate heavy machinery while taking any kind of depressant medication, and the second one was an armed security guard who tried explaining that his paranoid behavior was from switching cannabis strains. Under federal law it's a felony to own or possess a firearm while a user of cannabis, and the court cases so far have not been friendly to medical users.
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I know this sounds bad, but the addiction aspect can be mitigated by living life and being in positions where you need to quit smoking numerous times for whatever reasons. You learn how to master the desire. With that said, I also agree with you that it is a wonderful productivity drug. I can reliably get 2X done in a day if I add a small amount of cannabis.
>Is there a solution to munchies?
Lookup THCV, it is an analog that decreases your appetite along with a host of other benefits. Like you can consume any type of cannabis and then take a little THCV to counteract the munchies.
Lookup THCV, it is an analog that decreases your appetite along with a host of other benefits. Like you can consume any type of cannabis and then take a little THCV to counteract the munchies.
Hadn't heard of it but seems interesting, thanks for posting. Here's a good in-depth article about it from a couple of days ago if anyone is interested:
https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/everything-you-need...
Second anecdata point for THCV for appetite suppressing, and the host of other benefits including memory improving.
Yeah I don’t think we’ve tapped thcv yet, often called the sports car of cannabis
Also Linalool terpene dominant strains
Have you been diagnosed with ADHD?
As to the productivity are you certain that you are more productive and not just feeling more productive? That's a pretty common thing with weed, it causes the brain to release dopamine which it normally does in response to you being productive.
As to the productivity are you certain that you are more productive and not just feeling more productive? That's a pretty common thing with weed, it causes the brain to release dopamine which it normally does in response to you being productive.
ADHD wasn't a thing when I was a child. Does weed help with that? I've heard a lot of treating this condition with what is essentially legal amphetamines which sounds horrible to me.
It's a shame, though not surprising in the least, that the good, cheap stuff is illegal in most of the world.
It's a shame, though not surprising in the least, that the good, cheap stuff is illegal in most of the world.
> with what is essentially legal amphetamines which sounds horrible to me
It's not.
It's not.
What is it not ? Legal amphetamine or horrible ?
Sorry, I realize now I wasn't clear. It's not horrible.
It can help with ADHD.
As far as the amphetamines, dosage, ROU and brain chemistry are everything. A 10mg Adderall is not the same thing as smoking 100mg of meth.
As far as the amphetamines, dosage, ROU and brain chemistry are everything. A 10mg Adderall is not the same thing as smoking 100mg of meth.
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Talk to a doctor.
Cannabis is complicated and we don’t yet have much research with humans due to Federal policy in the US.
Cannabis is complicated and we don’t yet have much research with humans due to Federal policy in the US.
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So 4000 years before rice? I’m not subject matter expert, but this doesn’t seem quite right.
First off, the press has a bad habit of treating archaeological finds as somehow definitive. I read "first domesticated 12,000 years ago" as "earliest evidence found thus far dated to 12,000 years ago." Rice (and cannabis) could have been domesticated long before that, but without fossil records, we can't claim to know that.
But... why would you assume any relationship between these two plants being domesticated?
But... why would you assume any relationship between these two plants being domesticated?
Why ever not?
Off the top of my head, weed is miles easier to cultivate, provides far more medicinal benefit, has more complete nutrition, and gives obvious and immediate relief from pain.
Off the top of my head, weed is miles easier to cultivate, provides far more medicinal benefit, has more complete nutrition, and gives obvious and immediate relief from pain.
Also makes great rope.
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Where I come from, we used to grow cannabis plants and use their seeds to feed birds kept in cages, in captivity. Birds liked the seeds and were singing a lot when feed on them. My garden and that of many others was fully of over one meter high cannabis plants. We had no other use for it. I learned it was a drug only when capitalist world reached us. Now, it is illegal to grow it.
Related: My grandma, now 93, used to say that tea made out of poppy seeds was good for babies that cried a lot. When given that tea, babies slept quite well. No adult I know, ever made use of that. I am not sure about that now.
Seeing 12000 years ago cannabis plants via current lens could lead to incorrect interpretation.
Related: My grandma, now 93, used to say that tea made out of poppy seeds was good for babies that cried a lot. When given that tea, babies slept quite well. No adult I know, ever made use of that. I am not sure about that now.
Seeing 12000 years ago cannabis plants via current lens could lead to incorrect interpretation.
capitalist world wasn't always hard against hemp and cannabis I believe
usual politics
usual politics
The Dryas impact is a fascinating event - if validated, it has the potential to shake up a lot of the currently accepted historical model of human civilization.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas_impact_hypothe...
The impact hypothesis suggests a global hellscape was caused, radically and rapidly causing massive flooding- a likely source for great flood mythologies found in almost every culture.