It's Not Climate Change It's Climate Changed
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The worst part: it won't get worse each year. We'll have two or three years in a row that won't set records, or where the records are all set outside the US. And we'll continue to have polar vortex deep-freezes that happen just in the US. And Americans who are predisposed will say, "See, you were wrong about it getting worse every year. It's all just a hoax and you're just an alarmist."
Which is exactly the same as they've been doing. It has been effective so far, and despite the incidents you name, I don't see any reason for it to change.
Which is exactly the same as they've been doing. It has been effective so far, and despite the incidents you name, I don't see any reason for it to change.
And you think the blame is on the ones denying "climate change"? Not the industry/farm owners and the consumerism of most people on earth? Why on earth a family has 2 cars? A person has 50 t-shirts? Many cellphones, tablets and gadgets that get replaced every 1 to 2 years?
Yeah. Because it's hard to deal with that at an individual level. Most people don't want to be the ones giving things up while other people ignore it. They may want to choose public transport instead of a car, but that's hard without a massive investment, which doesn't happen when a lot of people portray that as unnecessary.
One straightforward route to fixing all of that consumerism is a carbon tax. People will consume less when it costs more. But no carbon tax will be passed, because of denialists.
You can reduce your own consumption, and a lot of people do. But that's not sufficient, and it gets less sufficient every day. The longer we took to act, the bigger changes were required to deal with it. And it was the denialists that prevented action.
Industry played a big part in convincing them, but they made the individual choices to believe corporate shills over scientists. So yes, I blame them.
One straightforward route to fixing all of that consumerism is a carbon tax. People will consume less when it costs more. But no carbon tax will be passed, because of denialists.
You can reduce your own consumption, and a lot of people do. But that's not sufficient, and it gets less sufficient every day. The longer we took to act, the bigger changes were required to deal with it. And it was the denialists that prevented action.
Industry played a big part in convincing them, but they made the individual choices to believe corporate shills over scientists. So yes, I blame them.
there is no "denialist" preventing acts, only rich people lobbying to be able to produce and sell as much garbage as the people can consume. denialists or not.
If it makes you feel better, it was probably too late 10 years ago.
yeah, it doesn't, but thanks for trying
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I’m at a point where I think the only solution is a technical one, which yet has to be discovered. All politically motivated attempts failed.
It’s awful to imagine, but maybe a devastating pandemic that wiped out 50% of humans would give us a shot at a survivable climate.
muh climate change
Partially, this is due to the fact that only a handful of dedicated climate scientists were talking about the consequences of severe jet stream disturbance. This is what is know technically as quasi-resonate amplification (QRA) of Rossby waves. Basically, as the warm air from C02 induced global warming moves north to the Artic the jet stream gets very chaotic and you get stalled heat domes, stalled polar vortexes, torrential rain and flash flooding, and other weather anomalies.
This climate chaos is not going to go away and will only get worse each year. There is nothing stopping it from being 120F next year in British Columbia as it was just a few weeks ago this summer.
To paint a terrifying picture, we have 90% of the US west in brutal drought and even parts of the US midwest are now in drought conditions. Lake Powell, one of the largest reservoirs in the US southwest is at its lowest point in history. Nearly all the young salmon in northern California's Klamath and Sacramento Rivers may perish due to heat stress low water, and disease this year.
There are major unprecedented wildfires all over North America, the coldest reaches of Siberia, in Italy, Turkey and Spain.
Devastating flooding in Colombia, Costa Rica, the US Southwest, huge areas of China, India, Mexico, Bangladesh, Turkey the UK, Germany, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Belgium, Italy, Switzerland, Indonesia and the Philippines.
There is unusual frost in Brazil destroying thousands of acres of food and coffee. There have been videos of giant hail balls the size of tennis balls that have pummeled cars and houses in the UK, Switzerland and Texas.
We have passed the tipping point and the chickens have come home to roost...
1.5 or 2C of average global warming seems like just a quaint notion now, strange times are upon us. It could take a larger than WWII mobilization around the globe just to ensure the survival of humanity and that may not be enough. G8 governments should be spending at least 1/4 of total yearly GDP to find a solution because as we are clearly seeing the costs could be so, so much more.