No, the Unvaccinated Aren’t All Just Being Difficult(nytimes.com)
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No, the Unvaccinated Aren’t All Just Being Difficult
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/06/opinion/covid-delta-vaccines-unvaccinated.html
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https://drrollergator.substack.com/p/damned-lies-and-vaccine...
Wow this is a seemingly well reasoned & data driven piece with accompanying citations, thanks for sharing.
I'm honestly a bit stunned at some of the references & findings:
- "The real world data has shown that the death rate among the vaccinated, if infected with COVID, can be 3 to 5.7 times higher [1] than the death rate of the unvaccinated."
- "In the UK, which is tracking variants, reports [2] that among Delta variant cases, those vaccinated with two doses died at a rate of 0.0078 per infection and those unvaccinated died at a rate of 0.0014 per infection. The death per infection was 5.7 times higher among the vaccinated."
That said, I can't seem to find any credentials or publications by the author of this piece "Dr RollerGator PhD".
Can anyone provide citations to peer-reviewed publications that confirm or contradict his statements here? At face value the math appears to be correct, but perhaps there are more elusive errors in his reasoning.
[1] Impact and effectiveness of mRNA BNT162b2 vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 infections and COVID-19 cases, hospitalisations, and deaths following a nationwide vaccination campaign in Israel: an observational study using national surveillance data (May 2021) https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...
[2] SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in England (July 2021) https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...
I'm honestly a bit stunned at some of the references & findings:
- "The real world data has shown that the death rate among the vaccinated, if infected with COVID, can be 3 to 5.7 times higher [1] than the death rate of the unvaccinated."
- "In the UK, which is tracking variants, reports [2] that among Delta variant cases, those vaccinated with two doses died at a rate of 0.0078 per infection and those unvaccinated died at a rate of 0.0014 per infection. The death per infection was 5.7 times higher among the vaccinated."
That said, I can't seem to find any credentials or publications by the author of this piece "Dr RollerGator PhD".
Can anyone provide citations to peer-reviewed publications that confirm or contradict his statements here? At face value the math appears to be correct, but perhaps there are more elusive errors in his reasoning.
[1] Impact and effectiveness of mRNA BNT162b2 vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 infections and COVID-19 cases, hospitalisations, and deaths following a nationwide vaccination campaign in Israel: an observational study using national surveillance data (May 2021) https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...
[2] SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in England (July 2021) https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...
Death per infection does not correctly state the risk.
A better look would be dead/recovered. Death per infection assumes nobody else infected will die, which makes that risk assessment the absolute best case.
A better look would be dead/recovered. Death per infection assumes nobody else infected will die, which makes that risk assessment the absolute best case.
>That said, I can't seem to find any credentials or publications by the author of this piece "Dr RollerGator PhD".
That is probably an alias. I think no one is going to commit career suicide by getting themselves labelled "Anti-Vaccine" doctor. (Even when this article does not suggest vaccines are bad)..
That is probably an alias. I think no one is going to commit career suicide by getting themselves labelled "Anti-Vaccine" doctor. (Even when this article does not suggest vaccines are bad)..
ELI5:
How do the 'experts' know that there is a Delta surge or a Lambda surge when there is no test that can test it correctly?
How do the 'experts' know that there is a Delta surge or a Lambda surge when there is no test that can test it correctly?
I can't explain it like you're five. But it's still pretty simple: there are tests that do so. Next incorrect premise you'd like to me to fix?
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The experts collect blood samples and sequence the genome of the virus. The genome uniquely identifies a given variant of the virus.