Ask HN: I think my manager is trying to fire me
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Not knowing exactly what your situation is, it is difficult to say what You should do. But...
I would suggest You take a sober second look at your manager's comments. Sometimes what appears to be malicious attacks are just clumsy attempts to motivate.
Has anyone else on your team had simmilar issues?
I know it is hard to deal with a pushy manager but sometimes You just have to suck it up and put your nose back into joint.
If You are convinced You will have to leave don't sell yourself short by taking a 30% pay cut. Find a better paying job than your current one, and it is always easier to find a new job while You still have one. That is mainly because it avoids the questions a possible employer has about why You left (especially if they pass You by without even asking).
It seems You are quite frustrated and discouraged, it might be worthwhile reaching out to Your manager and honestly and HUMBLY asking for help resolving the issues You are having rather than the "I hate this shit" scorched earth, bridge burning path.
Good luck in whatever You decide.
I would suggest You take a sober second look at your manager's comments. Sometimes what appears to be malicious attacks are just clumsy attempts to motivate.
Has anyone else on your team had simmilar issues?
I know it is hard to deal with a pushy manager but sometimes You just have to suck it up and put your nose back into joint.
If You are convinced You will have to leave don't sell yourself short by taking a 30% pay cut. Find a better paying job than your current one, and it is always easier to find a new job while You still have one. That is mainly because it avoids the questions a possible employer has about why You left (especially if they pass You by without even asking).
It seems You are quite frustrated and discouraged, it might be worthwhile reaching out to Your manager and honestly and HUMBLY asking for help resolving the issues You are having rather than the "I hate this shit" scorched earth, bridge burning path.
Good luck in whatever You decide.
I forgot to mention, team culture is dumping shit on each other. Ticket with vague language. "we want google analytics on our sites" mind you there are 30+ sites. Then if you ask more, the biz dev / product douche, says oh ask this dev he has worked on this, you message the other dev who responds back in 3 hours oh we pass events here and you can read more google analytics documentation. I still don't wtf I need to do, where I need to do it, and what the output should be. After slow back and forth, I just give up and watch a movie instead. Everyone redirects to each other or to some random documentation. At last company I had product person who had tech background. Tickets were completely understandable and lead to action. But then in useless meetings these same people LOVE to hear themselves speak 10 minutes at a time. You clearly dont care about any of this, then in 'public' you pretend to be really interested in the product. So 50% gets done and then manager is like wHy dOnT yOu ReAcH oUt more...
If it’s a FAANG-type company, then it may be really hard to find another job that pays more. That’s one of the risks you take when you go to work for a FAANG — you end up pricing yourself out of the market for all non-FAANG companies.
Most non-FAANG companies are likely to look at your compensation you got and decide you’re just too expensive and you won’t even make it in the front door.
You end up having to look extra hard for startup type companies or other non-traditional employers who are willing to overlook your previous compensation, if you’re willing to take a lot less money in order to be a happier person.
Most non-FAANG companies are likely to look at your compensation you got and decide you’re just too expensive and you won’t even make it in the front door.
You end up having to look extra hard for startup type companies or other non-traditional employers who are willing to overlook your previous compensation, if you’re willing to take a lot less money in order to be a happier person.
Ok, so firstly to your question, it sounds like you aren't happy at the company, not just that they may, or may not be unhappy with your fit. Personally in my experience, managers will only push someone out if they are continuously bad at their job and even then they'll spend months trying to find another solution.
I do agree with others here that you need to sit down and really think about what type of company you want to work for and start there.
It does sound to me that this company has process issues...tickets that are too big for a sprint, manager is micro-managing instead of letting the team self-manage etc. I think the team could do with a bit of space and time to figure out what their flow is. In software development there are those who fit well into a procesa driven culture and there are others who prefer more fluid approaches. You seem like the latter.
I do agree with others here that you need to sit down and really think about what type of company you want to work for and start there.
It does sound to me that this company has process issues...tickets that are too big for a sprint, manager is micro-managing instead of letting the team self-manage etc. I think the team could do with a bit of space and time to figure out what their flow is. In software development there are those who fit well into a procesa driven culture and there are others who prefer more fluid approaches. You seem like the latter.
TDD is a cult. In my experience it's pushed by managers who last touched code in 2008. Just do what literally every other dev does and lie about using it.
A strong type system is one of the main ways to avoid the insanity of TDD, so it's interesting that you hate Typescript too.
A strong type system is one of the main ways to avoid the insanity of TDD, so it's interesting that you hate Typescript too.
what bothers me most typed languages is when you have to code in frontend with it. And your functions look like this: https://angular.io/api/common/http/HttpRequest
>feel like tech is filled career people, then what it used to be passionate hackers and learners.
I think any career is filled with career people now, as we don't live in economic systems that allow only the passionate to gravitate towards careers, especially high demand ones like tech.
I do think you need some time to regroup though. It might give you some perspective regarding which of the options you presented is most interesting and viable to you.
I think any career is filled with career people now, as we don't live in economic systems that allow only the passionate to gravitate towards careers, especially high demand ones like tech.
I do think you need some time to regroup though. It might give you some perspective regarding which of the options you presented is most interesting and viable to you.
To me it sounds like you'd be happier at a much smaller company. Same as me. I doubt I could work anywhere that had more than 15 or so employees. When a company gets too big, it gets bogged down in procedures and protocols. It gets an HR person. It's not for me.
Getting a severance isn’t the worst thing in the world. You can just lie to your future interviewers that you left or were laid off. Nobody checks this shit especially if you have a friend from work willing to speak on your behalf.
I was thinking along the same lines, if ship is already sinking then I should trying to steer into safety and instead just let it run its course and meanwhile do something else or might as well enjoy the time
It's clear you're not happy, so you should quit now -- your boss will probably respect your decision.
Don't burn your bridges when you leave.
Take a week or two when you're no longer in a sprint grind to figure out what you want to do next.
Don't burn your bridges when you leave.
Take a week or two when you're no longer in a sprint grind to figure out what you want to do next.
- leave now
- wait and get fired
- accept job at startup 30% pay cut & no brand
- start a company
- take vacation for few months
honestly I think I'm starting to hate tech... hate typescript, hate docker/kubernettes, hate webpack, hate microservices, hate AWS, hate TDD... basically hate everything unnecessary. It all feels like a cult and feel like tech is filled career people, then what it used to be passionate hackers and learners. Like all people who would normally go to business are now here..