Ask HN: Joined FAANG, immediately stopped getting recruiter messages?
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My guess is that recruiters know not to spend their time trying to recruit someone who just started a new job. I suspect you'll start seeing those emails again in ~3-6 months (around the time when people who start a new job are deciding if they really want to stay with that company), and again in ~2 years (around the time when people decide to look for new opportunities). I'm not a recruiter, so take that with a grain of salt.
LinkedIn Recruiter [0] is backed by a mature algorithm that recognizes these patterns. The application quite literally recommends the optimal candidates to poach. It also guesses who's profiles are out of date (e.g. if news breaks that company A lays off 20% of sales staff, then current sales people from A are more likely to be suggested for some company B's recruiting funnel).
[0]: https://business.linkedin.com/talent-solutions/recruiter
[0]: https://business.linkedin.com/talent-solutions/recruiter
This. I've never worked at FAANG, but recruiter spam stops for some time whenever I change companies.
Agree, that was my thought too. They seem to come back a few months into a job.
Enjoy the break. They'll be back.
There are various features on the search functions on LinkedIn, and most recruiters know that nobody quits the job they just started.
There are various features on the search functions on LinkedIn, and most recruiters know that nobody quits the job they just started.
There’s really no point to being on LinkedIn if you aren’t in an active job search. Unless you really feel the need to be bombarded by desperate recruiters and to see whatever “inspirational” cat meme the secretary from three jobs ago is posting..
I've been reached out via LinkedIn for several job opportunities related to the organization I'm working with. A couple of these turned out to generate great value and revenue for both orgs.
I understand though that in most cases and most of the time LI is closer to your experience.
I understand though that in most cases and most of the time LI is closer to your experience.
I disagree, and have used LinkedIn to keep up with a lot of former coworkers. (But I used to work at LinkedIn, so I clearly have a bias.)
i'm more curious why you just joined a new company and care about recruiter messages
maybe they can't afford you anymore?
You are onto something and if you haven’t tried to get a job lately you might not fully understand what OP is getting at here.
I have similar worries. I used to get more recruiting inbound and I can compare to equivalent colleagues of mine, the amount of inbound interest they get.
Long story short: Women and minority candidates get way more interest than I do despite similar qualifications and background. That is deeply troubling.
In theory I should get way more based on my “qualifications and experience,” in practice it is not the case.
You have to be aware there is a sweet spot for recruiters and I am definitely not in it, whatever it is, anymore.
Hint: Don’t be a white male with a family over 35 in most expensive geographies in North America.
Have even heard my friends who are CEOs of startups explicitly state “women are cheaper.” They we’re not joking.
USA hiring is rapidly becoming as attractive as hiring employees in France, I fear. I believe a lot of “smart money” have actively retooled their hiring strategy post covid.
They don’t want Europe, they don’t want USA. They don’t want to see expensive cities and they don’t want to pay for expensive city rental and housing inflation.
Corporations now seem to really like to recruit women for most roles in my category. And senior executives seem to prefer people who won’t “compete” with them. Increasingly they seem to want to avoid paying for the “benefit” of hiring USA citizens.
Recently saw a screen shot of the “team” of a major USA VC firm. 20% old white male original founders, 70% women and 10% white male junior hires. Hate to say it but this stratification is becoming quite common. It will be great for women, minorities and immigrants. Good for them.
This is a major problem for people like myself if trend continues. America is about to see itself lose its competitiveness horrifically. Quite honestly: I will have to move out of USA to compete and be able to somewhat raise family.
If you aren’t paying attention, and you are older and “more qualified” you should be extremely careful in coming years imo.
Unfortunately there is also such a thing as being “too talented.” If you are too smart, you represent a threat to management and your organization.
Have seen this myself. The place to be in this job market is remote, under the age of 25 and somewhere in the middle of the talent curve, on the pathologically ass kissing and optimistic side.
Remote work makes outsourcing much more attractive. I believe right now that on the inside, most VC portfolios are encouraging their startups to go for remote talent in less expensive locations.
I recently went through a loop, for example, and was offered a package that would have been attractive years ago.
Something has become broken with the American job market in a way that will disadvantage native workers.
All the press about resignations and hiring shortages is imo masking this. The reality on the ground doesn’t look good.
Politicians are going to be in for a very rude awakening if I am right.
I have similar worries. I used to get more recruiting inbound and I can compare to equivalent colleagues of mine, the amount of inbound interest they get.
Long story short: Women and minority candidates get way more interest than I do despite similar qualifications and background. That is deeply troubling.
In theory I should get way more based on my “qualifications and experience,” in practice it is not the case.
You have to be aware there is a sweet spot for recruiters and I am definitely not in it, whatever it is, anymore.
Hint: Don’t be a white male with a family over 35 in most expensive geographies in North America.
Have even heard my friends who are CEOs of startups explicitly state “women are cheaper.” They we’re not joking.
USA hiring is rapidly becoming as attractive as hiring employees in France, I fear. I believe a lot of “smart money” have actively retooled their hiring strategy post covid.
They don’t want Europe, they don’t want USA. They don’t want to see expensive cities and they don’t want to pay for expensive city rental and housing inflation.
Corporations now seem to really like to recruit women for most roles in my category. And senior executives seem to prefer people who won’t “compete” with them. Increasingly they seem to want to avoid paying for the “benefit” of hiring USA citizens.
Recently saw a screen shot of the “team” of a major USA VC firm. 20% old white male original founders, 70% women and 10% white male junior hires. Hate to say it but this stratification is becoming quite common. It will be great for women, minorities and immigrants. Good for them.
This is a major problem for people like myself if trend continues. America is about to see itself lose its competitiveness horrifically. Quite honestly: I will have to move out of USA to compete and be able to somewhat raise family.
If you aren’t paying attention, and you are older and “more qualified” you should be extremely careful in coming years imo.
Unfortunately there is also such a thing as being “too talented.” If you are too smart, you represent a threat to management and your organization.
Have seen this myself. The place to be in this job market is remote, under the age of 25 and somewhere in the middle of the talent curve, on the pathologically ass kissing and optimistic side.
Remote work makes outsourcing much more attractive. I believe right now that on the inside, most VC portfolios are encouraging their startups to go for remote talent in less expensive locations.
I recently went through a loop, for example, and was offered a package that would have been attractive years ago.
Something has become broken with the American job market in a way that will disadvantage native workers.
All the press about resignations and hiring shortages is imo masking this. The reality on the ground doesn’t look good.
Politicians are going to be in for a very rude awakening if I am right.
I mean this in the nicest way possible: please spend some time looking inward, rather than blaming others or society at large. I can tell from this one comment that you're not getting jobs for a whole different reason than you think.
Yeah...no. This is some tinfoil hat shit and completely not representative of consensus reality.
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You're not right. With best intentions in my mind: get medical/psychological help, please.
I stopped getting recruiter messages after updating job status too (non FAANG). They're trickling in again a few months later, but most from dodgy recruiters.
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haha, since I joined FAANG, my recruiter messages like tripled !
Yes! Same thing happened to me too. Joined a non-faang company recently and recruiter messages dropped to almost nil. Pretty sure its because I started a new job.
I think they assume you make alot more, and so wont reach out. I work at a FAANG, and only receive recruiter email from top tier firms that can beat the comp.
Wow, didn't realize the benefits of working for a FAANG were so good! Never realized it was possible to have a profile on linkedin and not be spammed.
I guess that they know that at this point they can not offer you something that would attract you. As one recruiter has told me "Your honeymoon in the new company will be over soon and then we will talk again".
It could because of two reasons. 1. You updated your LinkedIn location. 2. You started a new job so it is very unlikely you will want to switch jobs. Don't worry. In a couple of months you will get more messages than before.
I'm curious to know if others have experienced this, if there's some LI filter that explains it or some filter used by recruiters ("search only for people with 6+ months tenure").
Also no, I didn't change any visibility setting on LI.