How do dolphins choose their name?(discovermagazine.com)
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How do dolphins choose their name?
https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/how-do-dolphins-choose-their-name
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> that they use to identify themselves for the rest of their lives.
while most humans are given names by the parental unit. dolphins are a step ahead and will thank us for all the fish one day.
while most humans are given names by the parental unit. dolphins are a step ahead and will thank us for all the fish one day.
Incredible (but maybe unsurprising) that nature is maximizing information density and designing efficient codes (a’la information theory) depending on their noise environment!
Impressive since it exemplifies the natural intelligence inherent in dolphins
Dolphins are interesting. Researchers tried to get someone living with one in a waist high pool all day to teach it language humans could understand. Funding started running out, so the researcher started giving it handjobs and LSD. No luck. Source:
https://boingboing.net/2013/06/18/dolphins-on-acid-and-other...
https://boingboing.net/2013/06/18/dolphins-on-acid-and-other...
You misrepresent the scenario to the point of fabrication; while each event you describe did individually (sort of) happen, the narrative is all scrambled. And your "source" is just a link to another article, which 404s.
Wikipedia link, for the curious: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Howe_Lovatt
Wikipedia link, for the curious: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Howe_Lovatt
Fascinating information to supplement. However the Wikipedia doesn't produce any citations either, so tough to accept human edits as truth. additionally, the Wikipedia article actually doesn't contradict what ehhhhhh commented.
This article from The Atlantic gives some more context to the delphinophilia:
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/06/ho...
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/06/ho...
Radiolab had an episode interviewing Margaret Howe, which was very informative if my memory serves.
https://radiolab.org/episodes/hello-podmash
https://radiolab.org/episodes/hello-podmash
The article lists four citations, not sure why you claim there are none?
I would not discard that funding started running out after seen how they were spending the money on turning the dolphins into party animals.
https://fore.yale.edu/news/Dolphins-gain-unprecedented-prote...
There is still some confusion on whether the Indian court opined that dolphins should have the rights to non-human personhood or the Indian courts granted such rights. Either way its a welcome move.
There is still some confusion on whether the Indian court opined that dolphins should have the rights to non-human personhood or the Indian courts granted such rights. Either way its a welcome move.
Yet another nail in the coffin of human exceptionalism. Consider not what you are eating, but who.
To those who would downvote, I encourage you to read the following:
https://aeon.co/essays/human-exceptionalism-is-a-danger-to-a...
To those who would downvote, I encourage you to read the following:
https://aeon.co/essays/human-exceptionalism-is-a-danger-to-a...
Go tell the lions they're not exceptional. I'm sure they'll switch to tofu.
The argument isn't convincing. It relies on a tired rethorical trick: invent some syndrome, claim it is the basis for something you don't like, then taint the syndrome. It doesn't convince. And in this case, the outcome will be negative: once everyone fully realizes we're just normal animals, why not behave like them? Meat's back on the menu.
The argument isn't convincing. It relies on a tired rethorical trick: invent some syndrome, claim it is the basis for something you don't like, then taint the syndrome. It doesn't convince. And in this case, the outcome will be negative: once everyone fully realizes we're just normal animals, why not behave like them? Meat's back on the menu.
Except, industrial agriculture and fisheries are nothing like subsistence predation.
I see no problem with hunter-gatherers’ predation of wildlife, provided they act in ecological balance with their environment (and they do tend to, out of self-preservation).
That’s not the world the vast majority of us live in though. We kill on the order of 1 trillion animals every year. We’re devastating Earth’s biosphere for the sake of an unnecessary dietary choice.
We’ll reap what we sow, sooner or later.
I see no problem with hunter-gatherers’ predation of wildlife, provided they act in ecological balance with their environment (and they do tend to, out of self-preservation).
That’s not the world the vast majority of us live in though. We kill on the order of 1 trillion animals every year. We’re devastating Earth’s biosphere for the sake of an unnecessary dietary choice.
We’ll reap what we sow, sooner or later.
> once everyone fully realizes we're just normal animals, why not behave like them?
Lions hunt and eat pretty, they also regularly kill cubs when taking over a pride. Does that make infanticide acceptable?
This argument is at least as silly as the parent's.
Lions hunt and eat pretty, they also regularly kill cubs when taking over a pride. Does that make infanticide acceptable?
This argument is at least as silly as the parent's.
GP isn’t arguing for “we should behave like animals”, they are just using it to show inconsistencies in GGP’s argument.
> Yet another nail in the coffin of human exceptionalism. Consider not what you are eating, but who.
This is an interesting take. If we refactor meat out of our diets out of empathy, wouldn't that imply human exceptionalism considering non-human carnivores and omnivores haven't been observed doing the same?
This is an interesting take. If we refactor meat out of our diets out of empathy, wouldn't that imply human exceptionalism considering non-human carnivores and omnivores haven't been observed doing the same?
I think the answer lies in your question. We have not observed such behavior (conscious dietary preferences), but that says nothing of capability.
Opting out of meat is only really possible for us because of farming. Other species lack the physical capabilities to farm as we do. Nor can they communicate to us the depth of their cognitive capabilities.
Rejecting human exceptionalism is not the same as saying we are indistinguishable from non-human animals (which would be absurd to argue), rather that our distinctions do not make us inherently more worthy.
Opting out of meat is only really possible for us because of farming. Other species lack the physical capabilities to farm as we do. Nor can they communicate to us the depth of their cognitive capabilities.
Rejecting human exceptionalism is not the same as saying we are indistinguishable from non-human animals (which would be absurd to argue), rather that our distinctions do not make us inherently more worthy.
Sorry I'm an apex predator.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/04/210405113606.h...
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/04/210405113606.h...
It is not particularly convincing in the last part, the most relevant part: our own selfish interests in prioritizing people related to us over those not related, close to us over those far from us, and so on. It does a lot of handwaving around environmental interconnectedness but it doesn't add up to much of an argument if you don't fully buy the whole ecosystem thing, and if you do buy that, we should be paying more attention to bees than farm animals.
Indeed we should be paying attention to bees.
Wild pollinators are being assaulted by pesticides and by honey bees outcompeting them. This matters because honey bees do not pollinate all the plants we care about.
Whole regions of China have managed to exterminate their pollinator species, such that fruit trees must be pollinated by hand.
Wild pollinators are being assaulted by pesticides and by honey bees outcompeting them. This matters because honey bees do not pollinate all the plants we care about.
Whole regions of China have managed to exterminate their pollinator species, such that fruit trees must be pollinated by hand.
I will remember that when running from other expert animals trying to have me for lunch, maybe they will stop for a second and think otherwise.
The concept that we should abstain from all animal meat is the very definition of human exceptionalism, since it amounts to saying we have transcended our animal natures to such an extent that we've moved past the instincts we share in common with non-humans.
Rejecting human exceptionalism is not the same as saying we are indistinguishable from non-human animals (which would be absurd to argue), rather that our distinguishing features do not make us inherently more worthy.
This is bad.
Cetaceans have a unique call. Contextually is that a name, a locator or an identity? They're not the same.
I'd say this is call by value not call by reference, or call by name.
That the call is matrilinially informed was interesting as was urine as a determinant.
I'd say this is call by value not call by reference, or call by name.
That the call is matrilinially informed was interesting as was urine as a determinant.
Dolphins are excellent whistle mimics if they want to be, so urine might be more resistant to cetacean identity theft.