Ownership of debian.community domain(debian.org)
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Ownership of debian.community domain
https://www.debian.org/News/2022/20220807
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This is what used to be on debian.community: https://archive.ph/anBLK
Debian has now put a redirect to a site explaining some of the background:
https://www.debian.org/legal/debian-community-site
This guy got kicked out on his own fault, couldn't cope with that and went full retaliation/revenge nuclear and attacking especially those people how said "no" to him at some time, one of the reasons why he got kicked out. Only after being kicked out he went. LWN covered this story already, albeit this is 2020 and much happened (for the worse) in between : https://lwn.net/Articles/814508/
This guy got kicked out on his own fault, couldn't cope with that and went full retaliation/revenge nuclear and attacking especially those people how said "no" to him at some time, one of the reasons why he got kicked out. Only after being kicked out he went. LWN covered this story already, albeit this is 2020 and much happened (for the worse) in between : https://lwn.net/Articles/814508/
The argument on the previous version of this website effectively boils down to two points:
1. Frans Pop was heavily involved in Debian
2. The suicide took place in the same week as Debian Day
I find this very unconvincing. I don't know much about this situation, so I'm not going to say Debian is 100% innocent, but the evidence the website provides is one (irrelevant) post from a mailing list.
1. Frans Pop was heavily involved in Debian
2. The suicide took place in the same week as Debian Day
I find this very unconvincing. I don't know much about this situation, so I'm not going to say Debian is 100% innocent, but the evidence the website provides is one (irrelevant) post from a mailing list.
The previous version of the website had a number of different posts on several topics.
I don't think the website does a good job of laying out the details in a clear manner and has a definite bias, but your summary seems deeply flawed.
I don't think the website does a good job of laying out the details in a clear manner and has a definite bias, but your summary seems deeply flawed.
There are two links on the homepage to other posts: both link to posts that mention Frans Pops zero times.
Please link to me anywhere the website substantiates any allegation/claim about Frans Pops past the ones I listed with any level of evidence at all (NOT unsubstantiated speculation) - I genuinely cannot find it.
Please link to me anywhere the website substantiates any allegation/claim about Frans Pops past the ones I listed with any level of evidence at all (NOT unsubstantiated speculation) - I genuinely cannot find it.
I'm certain there's someone from the Debian community with some knowledge about the case reading this. Could you please tell us what has happened according to your standpoint?
https://www.debian.org/legal/debian-community-site
Statements of other communities about this guy:
https://fsfe.org/about/legal/minutes/minutes-2019-10-12.en.p...
https://openlabs.cc/en/statement-we-have-been-a-target-of-di...
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/statement-on-we-make...
He also have been banned in other communities, like FSFE, FOSDEM, Fedora, Openlabs, GSoC…
Statements of other communities about this guy:
https://fsfe.org/about/legal/minutes/minutes-2019-10-12.en.p...
https://openlabs.cc/en/statement-we-have-been-a-target-of-di...
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/statement-on-we-make...
He also have been banned in other communities, like FSFE, FOSDEM, Fedora, Openlabs, GSoC…
https://lwn.net/Articles/814508/ Lots of the history is here
Seems like there was a lot of valid criticism on this site. Not suprising in the least they wanted it buried. Especially the whole thing about the debian leader promoting his girlfriend with no technical skills to Developer status in 2018. Having read the archive of the page was enough to make me quit using debian.